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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:43 am to Topwater Trout
Lol we’ll maybe you should phone O and tell him that he needs to make Aranda stack the box in those situations. It’s amazing to me that some of y’all think you have a better understanding of what’s going on out there than the coaches do.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:44 am to EasterEgg
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Complacency is the problem. Look at the first halves against Texas, Alabama, Ole Miss, and even Vanderbilt. All dominant defensive performances. OM and Vandy were really never in doubt.
Let's look at Texas. Do we win that game without the back to back goal lines stands by the D in the first half? Do we beat Alabama without Phillips snagging that interception setting up a late 1st half TD?
We all need to accept that our D will not have the statistical numbers we are accustomed to, but they do a great job at setting the tone early in games. And they're capable of playing good 2nd halves when needed a la Florida and Auburn.
fricking this right here. I'm convinced people aren't watching the games.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:47 am to Choupique19
I’m not sure it’s a recruiting problem I just think we’ve had too many injuries and departures. Remember it’s not just injuries it’s guys like Joseph, Thomas and Divinity quitting.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:49 am to TigerBlood17
Y'all are going to freak out, but I really don't think the defense is too bad.
Saturday wasn't a good look, but call it like it is. We're up 31-7 and we get lazy. If you're lazy against that quarterback and running back, they'll make you pay. And they absolutely did that.
That kind of offense will really give teams fits. Tip your cap to Ole Miss. They had a good offensive scheme for the second half.
That said, it's imperative that we get better on the defensive line. That's the one noticeable thing about this defense. I feel like we like those imposing defensive tackles and ends like we've had in the past.
Saturday wasn't a good look, but call it like it is. We're up 31-7 and we get lazy. If you're lazy against that quarterback and running back, they'll make you pay. And they absolutely did that.
That kind of offense will really give teams fits. Tip your cap to Ole Miss. They had a good offensive scheme for the second half.
That said, it's imperative that we get better on the defensive line. That's the one noticeable thing about this defense. I feel like we like those imposing defensive tackles and ends like we've had in the past.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:52 am to El Magnifico
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:56 am to LNCHBOX
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Vandy and Ole Miss? We still have supposed LSU fans using this game as a talking point of the defense?
Coach O talked about how bad our D played that game. I guess he's a "supposed LSU supporter".
Take away the pick 6 and we still surrendered more points to Vandy than every single team they played this season including Purdue, Northen Illinois and UNLV. 4 games this season they scored less than 10 points.
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Anyone taking Clemson over us right now is high as frick
We should be ranked higher, but anyone that thinks our D isn't going to put us in jeopardy is in denial. You've pissed on the offense for years and now you're denying that a D that is allowing 30.7 to P5 opponents isn't a concern. Why is that?
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How long can Joe Burrow continue to carry this defense? Pretty nice of the defense to let us build up a big lead over Bama and legit win us the game against Auburn.
It's a 60 minute game or do we only count halves vs Bama? As for Auburn, does anyone fear Bo nix or anything Auburn does offensively? They are basically old LSU. Good D and meh offense.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:57 am to El Magnifico
quote:No, but they run a mis-direction option offense with a very fast QB. It's not like we play a lot of teams that will line up in the split back (damn near wishbone) offense and run mis-direction option football. This type of offense if tough to prepare for in 2-3 practice sessions.
You think Ole Miss is an offensive juggernaut?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:06 am to TigerBlood17
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Defense - I'm going to keep it real stupid
FIFY
First, I would say this defense probably ranks in the top three for talent if you go by recruiting rankings.
However, there are other explanations for the large amount of yards and points they give up.
1. LSU has played a lot of really good offenses. In today's game, because of recent rule changes and trends in officiating, good offense beats good defense. For example, you would not say that LSU has played nothing but bad defenses, yet they've lit up every one of them.
2. LSU's offense is so good that LSU builds comfortable leads early in almost every game. Three teams that lit up LSU's defense, Texas, Alabama and Mississippi, trailed at halftime 20-7, 33-13, and 31-7. Everyone of those games had the feel of being over at halftime. This operates psychologically on both teams. LSU tends to let up, and their opponent tends to let it all hang out. When teams dominate crappy teams this doesn't come into effect, but good teams have the talent to rally.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:06 am to Topwater Trout
First off you keep talking about “scheme” you don’t know what the scheme is none of us do. Secondly I don’t know if you watched the game but we didn’t have a single player out there who could keep up or run with Ole Miss’s top 4 players. What defense is going to make our guys healthy enough to run faster? It has nothing to do with whether or not our players were highly recruited, can’t you see that Delpit can’t run or change directions? Didn’t you see that Fulton couldn’t outrun Trask vs Florida because he’s basically playing on 1 leg? Can’t you see that Stingley is letting people run past him all the time since taking those 2 hits vs Florida? This is not a complicated issue, our guys are hurt and there’s no depth cause a bunch of players quit and are out for the year.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:07 am to SammyTiger
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but our DL is weak.
They did not look weak against Alabama.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:17 am to BayouCowboy
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Take away the pick 6 and we still surrendered more points to Vandy than every single team they played this season
Did you forget the other defensive score, or were you just going for being fake news?
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but anyone that thinks our D isn't going to put us in jeopardy is in denial.
Against Clemson?
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You've pissed on the offense for years
I've pissed on the offense? OK.
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It's a 60 minute game or do we only count halves vs Bama? As for Auburn, does anyone fear Bo nix or anything Auburn does offensively? They are basically old LSU. Good D and meh offense.
Oh, so you just don't want to give credit. Neat. Like I said. Supposed LSU fan.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:27 am to LNCHBOX
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Oh, so you just don't want to give credit. Neat. Like I said. Supposed LSU fan.
Bull shite. You've been one of the most negative posters on this site for years. I'm not calling for Aranda to be fired, but I I'm not going to pretend that the D doesn't have issues. You don't think giving up the most points, yards and yards per play since 2001 is a concern. 30.7 points average allowed vs P5 opponents.
I agree with Madking that injuries are an issue. That's why I think we need to rest every defensive player that's banged up this week because Arkansas is horrible and no threat.
Why did Stevens say the D was horrible? Why has O brought up the D issues including missed assignments and poor tackling? They must hate LSU.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:29 am to TigerBlood17
This is just real talk.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:34 am to LNCHBOX
Clemson’s first title defense in 2016 faced 5 ranked teams and gave up 31+ to 4 of them including 43 to unranked Pitt. Our defense hasn’t done that. The 2014 champion Ohio State team gave up 28+ points 6 times with a schedule that had 1 ranked team. This D hasn’t done that either. And the 2015 Alabama national champs defense gave up over 40 twice, this defense hasn’t given up 40 yet.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:34 am to LSUbase13
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but I really don't think the defense is too bad.
It's the big play that's killing us. Safety and LB play in particular.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:35 am to Topwater Trout
We always say this but on 3rd and long they’re just pass rushing.
Most of the time they’re just pass rushing, especially when we’re are playing passing teams.
Shelvin has been good pushing the vet Yee of the line.
Chaisson has been getting pressure but not finishing with sacks.
Logan, Lawrence, Fehoko are just okay. None of them are elite. They’re not bad, the US e just not great.
Most of the time they’re just pass rushing, especially when we’re are playing passing teams.
Shelvin has been good pushing the vet Yee of the line.
Chaisson has been getting pressure but not finishing with sacks.
Logan, Lawrence, Fehoko are just okay. None of them are elite. They’re not bad, the US e just not great.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:36 am to Penrod
Yes they did.
Did you miss the half the game when Alabama decides to run all over us?
Did you miss the half the game when Alabama decides to run all over us?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:37 am to SOL
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Bring back Tepper
That's ridiculous, but I do think Chavis would be a vast improvement given our current defensive personnel. He could make hay on that side.of.the.ball.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:45 am to Madking
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Clemson’s first title defense in 2016 faced 5 ranked teams and gave up 31+ to 4 of them including 43 to unranked Pitt. Our defense hasn’t done that. The 2014 champion Ohio State team gave up 28+ points 6 times with a schedule that had 1 ranked team. This D hasn’t done that either. And the 2015 Alabama national champs defense gave up over 40 twice, this defense hasn’t given up 40 yet.
I think one of the most concerning issues is the big plays/missed assignments. Looking at UF for example, they play a high risk/high reward D so they blitz a lot and take chances which can generate sacks and turnovers, but they may give up a big play. We play a more conservative style and keep plays in front of us so we should not be giving up the long plays. We tend to force teams to drive and wait for them to make a mistake.
You can't play that style and give up the huge chunk plays too. I hope we get Brooks more playing time this week and use his athleticism to pressure the QB. We don't stunt our DL and I think it's due to injuries and lack of lateral speed.
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