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re: Deal to replace PMAC arena could require LSU land, new tax. Public can't see the details.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:35 pm to Tiger2tiga
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:35 pm to Tiger2tiga
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Well the pmac is 50 yrs old
So what? Tiger Stadium and most of the buildings on campus are closer to a hundred years old.
Buildings are built cheaper and cheaper. TS is 100 and still useable. PMAC is 50 and apparently unusable. I don’t have any faith that anything built today is going to last much past 30 years - if that. Patrick Taylor being a good example of terrible design and construction.
$400 million for basically a temporary venue for entertainment seems ridiculous to me.
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:41 pm to broadhead
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This attorney and Enquist built Americana in Zachary with a similar tax and nothing of value has been added to Zachary from this tax. I'd be very leery of this setup
This setup has been used successfully all over the country. It's even been used successfully in Louisiana, just go check out Fremaux Town Center in Slidell.
If Americana sucks, I'd look to the developer.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:43 pm to TigerAlumni2010
“From what it seems like, the economic district has been made”
Fwiw.. the vape shop on state is in it and could be taxed.. the vape shop on chimes is not in it and will not be taxed.. a LOT of other examples on the district map not being vetted properly.. again poor execution and rush job.. I do not think they meant to make the screw ups.. but they rushed things..
Fwiw.. the vape shop on state is in it and could be taxed.. the vape shop on chimes is not in it and will not be taxed.. a LOT of other examples on the district map not being vetted properly.. again poor execution and rush job.. I do not think they meant to make the screw ups.. but they rushed things..
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:53 pm to BallChamp00
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What 2% added to sales tax? Like 2 cents each dollar?
They are not talking about if you to rouses on airline you get extra 2% tax. Instead what they mean is if you buy a beer in the new arena you get the 2%. Similar to hotel tax. I accept this. Tax those using it.
Side thought. A couple years ago Nola had a vote up to increase taxes on hotels, conferences etc. that’s all people read and voted it down. However if you read the whole bill what they were trying to do is decrease local residents taxes and pass the buck to tourist. AND the people of New Orleans essentially voted to just keep paying the taxes themselves. Ha. So $&@:;($ stupid
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:00 pm to dcw7g
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Where did you see this? Everything I read said the developer would own the building and make money on all the non-LSU events. I don't recall seeing anything about ownership of the arena transferring to LSU.
It's literally in every article I've read about the project
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:08 pm to GeorgeReymond
For those worrying that the building will have fallen to shite before 30 years is up, that's not realistic. The Smoothie King Center is 25 this year and has held up nicely (other than being ugly). If the thing is built right, and with cutting edge technology, it will last longer than the shitty PMAC.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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It is possible that we can build a nice, new arena, and it be done via a process that doesn't stink to high heaven and have tons of foolishness involved.
We can do this in a fair, open process.
We absolutely cannot
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:16 pm to Slippy
According to the LLA report, football brought in $54 million, and men's basketball brought in $1.3 million after expenses for the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2023.Jan 30, 2024
No new taxes!
I attended gymnastics and WBB this season and the PMAC is nice. What would a new arena bring to LSU other than being new? Hopefully more space in between rows. I could see suites being sold but then that could fund the constructions.
And concerts shouldn't be considered. It is been shown that major acts go to NOLA then Lafayette.
No new taxes!
I attended gymnastics and WBB this season and the PMAC is nice. What would a new arena bring to LSU other than being new? Hopefully more space in between rows. I could see suites being sold but then that could fund the constructions.
And concerts shouldn't be considered. It is been shown that major acts go to NOLA then Lafayette.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:23 pm to broadhead
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and the PMAC is nice
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And concerts shouldn't be considered. It is been shown that major acts go to NOLA then Lafayette.
Because we don’t have an arena!
Baton Rouge used to be a premier destination for touring acts. Everyone from Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones to Van Halen and Metallica played Baton Rouge.
You’re being short sighted at best, flat out dumb at worst.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
What is the River Center then?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:30 pm to broadhead
An old decrepit arena than cannot handle the needs of modern touring acts.
They can barely handle single A hockey
They can barely handle single A hockey
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
What upgrades does the PMAC need? You only laughed which means you have no argument. Why should tax payers fund any portion of this?
Louisiana has a population decline and you fools want to tax the remaining citizens more. Who is being short sighted now?
Louisiana has a population decline and you fools want to tax the remaining citizens more. Who is being short sighted now?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:31 pm to broadhead
My God. We have the biggest bunch of whining people that want to b#tch about everything!
We have an outdated 50 year old arena that gets no concerts or events.
LSU will get a new 400 millions dollar arena state of the art arena given to them free of charge. Baton Rouge will get concerts that will brings money into the economy.
AND YET WILL STILL HAVE PEOPLE B#TCH! GIMME A BREAK!
We have an outdated 50 year old arena that gets no concerts or events.
LSU will get a new 400 millions dollar arena state of the art arena given to them free of charge. Baton Rouge will get concerts that will brings money into the economy.
AND YET WILL STILL HAVE PEOPLE B#TCH! GIMME A BREAK!
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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An old decrepit arena than cannot handle the needs of modern touring acts.
But the Cajun Dome can?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:34 pm to broadhead
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What upgrades does the PMAC need?
It does not have the infrastructure to support the audio and visual needs of touring acts. Except maybe WWE but wrestling doesn’t bring their A tier events to Baton Rouge the way they used to for this exact reason.
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Who is being short sighted now?
Louisiana stays shitty and poor because people like you shout down any attempt to modernize it.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:35 pm to WPBTiger
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which is expected to cost $350 million
A real baw made that projection
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It does not have the infrastructure to support the audio and visual
So some fiber optic cable? That's it?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:36 pm to broadhead
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But the Cajun Dome can?
The Cajundome got a major renovation less than 10 years ago.
It’s not an A tier facility or anything but yes compared to either the PMAC or the River Center it may as well be Madison Square Garden
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:38 pm to broadhead
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So some fiber optic cable? That's it?
Ability to support video boards and allow for modern equipment to be plugged into the facility easily and efficiently. Also a backstage area that’s been updated since 1973.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Louisiana stays shitty and poor because people like you shout down any attempt to modernize it.
Or maybe people flee the state due to the high taxation and political corruption. But, please let's tax us more so we can get a new arena. All those high rollers that fly into BTR can look at the weeds along the interstate and busted arse harding blvd. Not to the mention the poors that fly commercial and get to be greeted by parish prison.
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 1:41 pm
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