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re: Dawkins is testifying... Updated - he's done for today continuing tomorrow

Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:41 pm to
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If the NCAA slams LSU the only message they’re sending is that blue bloods can do it but programs trying to come up can’t


Primitive melt...nice
Posted by tigerfan0082
Member since Oct 2011
676 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:48 pm to
Dawkins went on record about ALL NBA agents paying players/families while in college.

Let that sink in...ALL agents paying college players/families.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41911 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:56 pm to
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Honestly, I don’t have an opinion because none of us have enough information to form an opinion. I just though it was funny how typing three words can work so many adults into a frenzy


It's called trolling
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:57 pm to
Some of the programs that's been named are crazy. Creighton, Cleveland State, ECU.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:22 pm to
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The tape not being admitted into trial does not mean the NCAA won’t look at it

it means the NCAA can't legally gain access to the tape, so it does mean they won't look at it
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:24 pm to
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Primitive melt...nice


The word you were looking for is preemptive, idiot.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:24 pm to
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I would have to think there would be some privacy issues if they were to do so.

After all, there are people on those wiretaps who aren’t and were never under investigation. I’m no lawyer, but them turning over such evidence seems pretty unlikely.


I am a lawyer and there are privacy laws that prevent the release of non-admitted evidence like this unless Wade consents to the release. The FBI won't and can't hand it over.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:33 pm to
Look at the fight over the Mueller Report. FBI cannot legally disclose grand jury testimony and the FBI has policies on releasing information that reveals sources and methods of investigating as well as releasing embarrassing or damaging information about parties who were not indicted. These things are exemptions to the Freedom of Information Act, which is the mechanism by which the NCAA may try to obtain evidence not admitted at trial.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:34 pm to
I’m happy to be wrong then.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:41 pm to
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Look at the fight over the Mueller Report. FBI cannot legally disclose grand jury testimony and the FBI has policies on releasing information that reveals sources and methods of investigating as well as releasing embarrassing or damaging information about parties who were not indicted. These things are exemptions to the Freedom of Information Act, which is the mechanism by which the NCAA may try to obtain evidence not admitted at trial.

The law I'm referring to isn't just FBI policy but rather a piece of legislation that became federal law in 1974. 5 U.S.C. § 552a
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:01 pm to
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lsufball19

Thank you for clarifying and sharing your expertise with the board.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:04 pm to
I've never looked at the issue, but do intercepted telephone calls fall within the definition of a "record" under the privacy act (I hope they do in this setting)?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:10 pm to
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I've never looked at the issue, but do intercepted telephone calls fall within the definition of a "record" under the privacy act (I hope they do in this setting)?

yes. I read the whole statute awhile ago, at least the pertinent part, and basically anything gathered in a federal investigation is protected unless it falls under certain exceptions, this not being one obviously.

Here is the relevant section of that statute
quote:

(b)Conditions of Disclosure.—No agency shall disclose any record which is contained in a system of records by any means of communication to any person, or to another agency, except pursuant to a written request by, or with the prior written consent of, the individual to whom the record pertains, unless disclosure of the record would be—


To me that reads as a catch all for all federal agencies that maintain records. I would assume the DOJ and FBI would fall under that umbrella and so would their case files (or records they maintain).

and there's also this
quote:


(1)Criminal Penalties.—
Any officer or employee of an agency, who by virtue of his employment or official position, has possession of, or access to, agencyrecords which contain individually identifiable information the disclosure of which is prohibited by this section or by rules or regulations established thereunder, and who knowing that disclosure of the specific material is so prohibited, willfully discloses the material in any manner to any person or agency not entitled to receive it, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000.
(2) Any officer or employee of any agency who willfully maintains a system of records without meeting the notice requirements of subsection (e)(4) of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000.
(3) Any person who knowingly and willfully requests or obtains any record concerning an individual from an agency under false pretenses shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000.

This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:13 pm to
Nice. Will make things very difficult for the NCAA to do much against any school other than Arizona at this point.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:26 pm to
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FBI undercover agent's idea to pay or "bribe" coaches. Sounds like an entrapment defense.

And this is why I have felt that WW was acting in accordance with FBI instructions. And the more I hear the more convinced I am of this. There are a lot of factors pointing to the fact WW was involved only because he was requested to by FBI agents. I know this sounds far-fetched, but how could a man like WW be so confident he will come out of this unscathed if there is actual proof of his wrongdoings? Makes no sense. Most guilty people would bail and run from this, he remains confident and certain there is no proof or evidence of him doing anything wrong. IMO, the defense wanted to explore WW's involvement and show entrapment by coercing with the FBI.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Tigers eyes


Your theory would explain why Wade couldn’t meet with Alleva and King.

He is said to be disliked by his peers.

Who knows for sure, but if it came out that he was cooperating it wouldn’t floor me. I’d be surprised, but not that surprised.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:36 pm to
I personally feel that's a little far-fetched for me to believe with the information we have now, but if that was ever verified to be the case, I would love to see heads spin to say the least
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:37 pm to
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There are a lot of factors pointing to the fact WW was involved only because he was requested to by FBI agents. I know this sounds far-fetched,
chances of this being true: 0.0.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66940 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:42 pm to
Is that dickwad defense attorney who leaked the transcript initially to yahoo at risk for those criminal sanctions? I realize it would only be from a hyper technical standpoint, but that’s where this WW hysteria started.
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