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re: Davis: LSU "working through things" to have Nuss play bowl game but not lose redshirt

Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Earthquake 88
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:00 pm to
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Does a redshirt really matter anymore with the Transfer portal? The odds of LSU holding onto Nuss his whole Collegiate career seems pretty slim.


No kidding. Why redshirt. QBs don’t stick around long if they aren’t going to start. Mack Jones is the only good one that comes to mind that has recently waited his turn to essentially only play one year as a starting QB.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
933 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:24 am to
I get you. But from a competitors standpoint, why would you not want to play in a bowl game? I treasured every moment of college competition at DI level even when I was getting my stuff pushed in :-)
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11774 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:27 am to
Let’s be real


You didn’t ‘cherish’ getting your shite pushed in until later on in life
Posted by EastTexasTiger
Lufkin, Tx.
Member since Feb 2007
3972 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:49 am to
He shouldn’t give up his redshirt for a bowl game that doesn’t have championship ramifications. I don’t think LSU would allow him to. I’d love to see Kirklin at QB just once or the walk on.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59347 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:08 am to
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2) As soon as Max put himself in the portal, Nuss was starting the bowl game. He probably talked to his dad, Davis, and Kelly, but he absolutely wants to play. And I think he will.

3) Why in the world, if a loophole that could potentially benefit both Nuss AND LSU, not at least attempt to be exploited,

4) No matter what the ruling, Nuss will play.




I understand this line of thinking. It's fairly logical. It's 100% speculation though.

If he doesn't play, I believe he's gone. His chances at starting at LSU are by beating out Howard. Beating out Brennan next year would help a lot in that effort. Neither are likely. His best chance of it happening is to start impressing people asap.

Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1953 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:47 am to
I don't see the NCAA doing us any favors. They've already screwed the game so much that a team to go into bowl season with 50 players or less. No foresight at all.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7195 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:55 am to
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I don't see the NCAA doing us any favors.


It's not about one kid from LSU. There shouldn't be any penalty for a player or school by having someone participate in what is essentially an exhibition game. This would help many players and schools.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 10:56 am
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9471 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:23 am to
If you don't play, pay back your scholarship and gtfo.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:55 am to
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If you don't play, pay back your scholarship and gtfo.



Go back inside grandpa! Nobody's paying back shite. Sad sorry take, come up with something that can fix the situation and stop yelling about the one thing that will never happen!
Posted by mattytiger123
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:00 pm to
Why not play a walk on? Seriously. Give the guy a chance. It’s a 6-6 bowl with an interim coach and half the team gone/out
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68653 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Why not play a walk on? Seriously. Give the guy a chance. It’s a 6-6 bowl with an interim coach and half the team gone/out

We have two walk-on QBs, both true freshman. One weighs 167 pounds. I'd rather take my shot having Kirkland play QB.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
61211 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:17 pm to
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I understand this line of thinking. It's fairly logical. It's 100% speculation though.


I’ll have to check the dates, but I’ve done a 180 on this since Myles decided to come back. I think it makes much less sense for Nuss to play if he doesn’t have a legit chance to win the starting job next year, which I don’t think he does barring another Myles injury. I still think if it were up to him he’d play, but I bet his dad and Coach Kelly agree that it’s not in Nuss’s or LSU’s best interests for him to give up that 5th year at this point.

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f he doesn't play, I believe he's gone. His chances at starting at LSU are by beating out Howard. Beating out Brennan next year would help a lot in that effort. Neither are likely. His best chance of it happening is to start impressing people asap.


I agree his best chance of beating out Howard is to beat out Brennan next year and be the incumbent, but I don’t necessarily think he’ll automatically transfer if he doesn’t. He signed with LSU last December when we still had Brennan, Max, and TJ—all who had started games games in the prior 3 months, 2 of whom were just 1 class ahead—and Howard already committed. He may not have predicted Myles coming back for the ‘22 season, but he certainly wouldn’t have predicted both TJ and Max not being here for it, and that helps him more than Myles coming back hurts him. So why would he transfer now (after ‘22) of he wouldn’t have previously? What’s changed since he signed that makes it worse for him in the future? I’d argue his situation is better than when he signed.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:40 pm to
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what's your response if it is BK making the determination not to burn Nuss's redshirt for this bowl game?
I'd certainly be good with it. Would mean he's been up front/treated the player like a man and let Nuss know just where he stands.
Might mean there's no place for you with us - best if you transfer...or...might mean we think you could play here let's save that year.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:51 pm to
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It's not about one kid from LSU. There shouldn't be any penalty for a player or school by having someone participate in what is essentially an exhibition game. This would help many players and schools.
I believe you're on to something there, My Man.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16049 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 1:09 pm to
It would be a big benefit for Nuss to play just in the experience he would gain from playing an entire game. Especially with it being the last game of the season. He would have the entire offseason to reflect on it and know what he needs to work on and have a better understanding of the speed of the game and all that. Just look at the gains Burrow made from year one to year two.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59347 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 1:18 pm to
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I think it makes much less sense for Nuss to play if he doesn’t have a legit chance to win the starting job next year, which I don’t think he does barring another Myles injury. I still think if it were up to him he’d play, but I bet his dad and Coach Kelly agree that it’s not in Nuss’s or LSU’s best interests for him to give up that 5th year at this point.


If that's the case, then only a transfer would make sense.

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I agree his best chance of beating out Howard is to beat out Brennan next year and be the incumbent, but I don’t necessarily think he’ll automatically transfer if he doesn’t.


I mean, he could wait to see if he loses the job in 2023, but then he would have lost the year that he's so desperately clinging to...and he could be in exactly the same spot by redshirting next year (under assumption Brennan beats him out).

It just doesn't make any logical sense that he'd choose not to play and stay. Choosing not to play and leaving, makes sense. Choosing to play and staying makes sense. Hell, he's not going to be handed the job if he transfers after losing the job in the spring. That right there gets him his 5th year. So, even if he plans on seeing how he does in the spring, playing in this game makes sense.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
933 posts
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