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re: "Daniels gives LSU the best chance to win games"

Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:04 am to
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:04 am to
Jayden is the ultimate game manager type of QB. He’s super conservative and is not going to take chances. His special ability is his legs which he uses when he doesn’t trust his eyes.

We can feel good that we are likely to have zero turnovers from the QB, who is also going to get you 5 first downs a game with his legs.

This isn’t going to be the year of amazing stats from WR’s. This is a the year to build a culture and learn to win and play smart.

We can win a lot of games like this, but hope he can gradually find favorable matchups and let the WR make a play.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:06 am to
Those are Jordan Jefferson-type numbers.

Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:09 am to
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Is our roster worse than Mercer or San Jose St.?


Did they beat Auburn? Did we? You care more about stays than actually winning the game, which makes you a know-nothing piece of shite fan and human being. And a dumb as frick one too because you’re not smart enough to figure out that EVERY game is its own, individual contest. Mercer and San Jose State have literally zero to do with LSU.

You play…to win…the game. HELLO!!! I don’t give a good Goddamn how many yards Mercer had in ANY game, much less against Auburn. Could not be more irrelevant. Only tiny-dicked count care about that more than winning. But you’re you, so….
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:11 am to
There were literally people calling for Nussmeier to play, accepting that he would throw INTs, but justifying it because “he slings it downfield” lmao
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:14 am to
I bashed Nuss horribly earlier this year. After last night it is obvious he at least will give our receiver’s a chance to make a big play where Daniel’s will not throw against one on one coverage over the top. Our receiver group would have a chance to prosper with NUSS, while the season will look like a replay of Les Miles with lesser running backs as long as JD is playing. I know he will throw interceptions but he will also throw some big plays and make us more balanced. At this point JD is what he is and there has been zero growth….screw it and make the change IMO.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 10:15 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60877 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:15 am to
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Its a joke people are saying this. It has to be a troll.


I agree this is a joke of a take

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A QB who couldnt match the Mercer or San Jose St. QB's production is NOT the "best chance


What a stupid comparison talk about taking the transitive property to the extreme. 1 game doesn’t tell you anything useful but who do you think Auburn gets more up for out of Mercer, SJSU or LSU?

All of you pining for Nuss or Brennan just assume they’d be better but there’s no way to know
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79403 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:15 am to
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Someone will come along soon and say denbrock sucks


I don't get going this route when JD straight won't throw the ball.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91386 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:16 am to
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bashed Nuss horribly earlier this year. After last night it is obvious he at least will give our receiver’s a chance to make a big play where Daniel’s will not throw against one on one coverage over the top. Our receiver group would have a chance to prosper with NUSS, while the season will look like a replay of Les Miles with lesser running backs. I know he will throw interceptions but he will also throw some big plays and make us more balanced. At this point JD is what he is and there has been zero growth….screw it and make the change IMO.


Ahh, so we’ll lose because of turnovers, but at least we get to see a 50/50 deep ball get thrown once a quarter.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:19 am to
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so we’ll lose because of turnovers, but at least we get to see a 50/50 deep ball get thrown once a quarter.



If JD continues to be a deer in headlights, we got to let Nuss take his lumps, get his snaps, and grow up.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:22 am to
Both title of this thread and what you just said here can both be true you know. If anyone can't see holes in our scheme then you don't know football. Denbrock is absolutely a problem. He doesn't create wrinkles or adjust a scheme to a player's strength.

Denbrock is the type of OC where if you get him a good QB his scheme will shine but he needs the players for it. He's not a creative mind that's going to build it around a player's strength like Kiffin. Even Gary Crowton shined when he had the players. Ask yourself is this the type of OC you want with the money LSU is paying?

BK doesn't get to be immune from criticism either because that's his BBQ buddy hire as a yes man who's a big part of our offensive scheme too. We're not paying 10 million a year for a repeat of Les Miles offense.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91386 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:23 am to
If he can’t run, play Nuss, but understand whatever hypothetical upside you think he has over JD is coupled with a much lower downside.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:26 am to
If anyone watches Tenn or UGA or even Bama yesterday with a back up.

They start off by throwing quick slants and screens (tunnel and/or just 1:1 screen) they let their playmakers loose.

We refuse to do that and it makes zero fricking sense. We finally decide to run a sweep with Boutte in the 4th qtr. that shite should be early and often in the game with any receiver. Send motions and keep defense on its toes.

The fact we don't throw those short quick passes to build a rythmn tells me Daniels most likely can't even do that. Or Denbrock is truly a terrible OC with zero imagination.

They are obsessed with TEs when we have first round receiver talent.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
79403 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:26 am to
Gotta move the ball. JD couldn't. If we have guys getting open, we need a quarterback who's going to get them the ball. Not saying Nuss is better than JD, I think Daniels is a good passer when he does it, but it does the offense no good when he can't see the field.
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
5372 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:27 am to
That’s possible, yes you can read…exactly what I said. But you get a chance, not proven, but a chance of something better than what you have with JD.
His problem is mental and is more worried about being perfect than taking some chances.
Surely you can see he plays incredibly tentative.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12494 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:28 am to
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It’s obvious he gives LSU the best chance to win. That’s why he’s in there. But that does not mean he’s very good it just means our other quarterbacks are not ready or as talented as him


This.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
79403 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:29 am to
I've been a JD supporter since he got named starter, I saw the reasons Nuss wasn't ready against southern, I haven't been banging the Nuss drum this whole time, but I'm ready to see him get the snaps. Unless there was some physical reason JD wasn't able to get the passing game going last night, let's see it.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15449 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:32 am to
And you are stupid.

Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16576 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:34 am to
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2/6 for 5 yards.

How many yards and completions did Daniels have the second half?

I'll save you looking it up. 0
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79403 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:36 am to
How many drops factored in there?
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15449 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:36 am to
100%. The argument may go like this. Why play JD knowing LSU will lose with him. Maybe give Nuss a shot to see what he can do. I owe Jordan Jefferson an apology, Daniels to this point at LSU is much much worse. He is an offensive anchor in a bad way.

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