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re: Damone Clark is the SEC Defensive Player of the Week
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:59 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:59 pm to thunderbird1100
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I mean, not really, he had 1 single defensive win stop the entire game among his 15 tackles.
Here's every tackle he made among his 15:
[1] 1 and 10 at MSU25 Marks,Joquavious rush for 5 yards gain to the MSU30 (Clark,Damone Burns,Major).
[2] 1 and 10 at MSU15 Rogers,Will pass complete to Marks,Joquavious for 5 yards to the MSU20 (Clark,Damone Baskerville,Micah).
[3] 3 and 5 at MSU20 Rogers,Will pass complete to Williams,Austin for 22 yards to the MSU42 (Ward,Jay Clark,Damone), 1ST DOWN.
[4] 2 and 1 at LSU13 Marks,Joquavious rush for 0 yards to the LSU13 (Farrell Jr.,Neil Clark,Damone).
[5] 1 and 10 at LSU10 Rogers,Will rush for 4 yards gain to the LSU06 (Clark,Damone).
[6] 2 and 6 at LSU6 Rogers,Will pass complete to Williams,Austin for 4 yards to the LSU02 (Clark,Damone).
[7] 1 and 10 at MSU10 Rogers,Will pass complete to Marks,Joquavious for 8 yards to the MSU18 (Clark,Damone Burns,Major).
[8] 2 and 2 at MSU18 Rogers,Will pass complete to Marks,Joquavious for 7 yards to the MSU25 (Clark,Damone Baskerville,Micah), 1ST DOWN.
[9] 1 and 10 at MSU25 Rogers,Will pass complete to Polk,Makai for 4 yards to the MSU29 (Clark,Damone) PENALTY LSU Face Mask (Clark,Damone) 15 yards from MSU29 to MSU44, 1ST DOWN.
[10] 2 and 10 at MSU36 Rogers,Will pass complete to Johnson,Dillon for 7 yards to the MSU43 (Clark,Damone).
[11] 2 and 10 at MSU25 Rogers,Will pass complete to Marks,Joquavious for 8 yards to the MSU33 (Clark,Damone).
[12] 1 and 10 at LSU22 Marks,Joquavious rush for 8 yards gain to the LSU14 (Clark,Damone).
[13] 2 and 2 at LSU14 Rogers,Will pass complete to Polk,Makai for 9 yards to the LSU05 (Clark,Damone Baskerville,Micah), 1ST DOWN.
[14] 2 and 9 at MSU35 Rogers,Will rush for 6 yards gain to the MSU41 (Clark,Damone).
[15] 2 and 8 at LSU38 Rogers,Will rush for 10 yards gain to the LSU28 (Clark,Damone), 1ST DOWN.
So, 1 tackle for no gain on a 2nd and 1 which was his only defensive win stop the entire game. You can maybe argue the 4 yard gain on 2nd and goal from the 6 could be a defensive stop, but I'd say it's a tossup at best there between defensive or offensive win.
It was literally 14 other tackles that went for 4-10 yard gains, and 1 22 yard gain where they probably split a zone there.
4-5 yards on a 1st and 10 is a win for the offense every time. It would be a different story if I saw things like a 4 yard gain on 3rd and 7, getting them off the field. But 4-5-6 yard gains in those situations above are not "good plays" for the defense in that respect.
He played within what he had to, but it wasnt a "good game" by him really in any shape of the imagination. He also missed 2 tackles and had 2 penalties.
This post was edited on 9/27 at 4:05 pm
We played with 3 guys on the LOS meaning they had 2 free players to block him almost every play. We were literally playing the run with 4 people. They had 5 blockers and a runner versus our 4 guys in the box. Seriously how could you expect him to have a bunch of tackles for loss. The gameplane was to dare them to run it and we knew Leach wouldn't do it. It worked perfectly yet people with zero football IQ continue to bash a guy just because.
Edit- Flott was more deserving but killing Clark because he's fighting off blockers all game is just dumb. State had us outgapped in the run game and it was by design because we knew State wouldn't stick with it.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:02 pm
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Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:02 pm to redfishfan
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The gameplane was to dare them to run it and we knew Leach wouldn't do it.
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It worked perfectly
They ran 115 yards at 4.5yd/carry.
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zero football IQ
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:04 pm to msptigers
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They ran 115 yards at 4.5yd/carry.
They ran it 26 times and threw it 62 buddy. LSU knew Leach wouldn't stick with the run and would throw it even though the numbers in the box meant State should run it. Go re-watch the game. We had 4 guys in the box at times so they had us out gapped by 2 gaps.
Edit- On second and 5 in the first quarter with LSU up 7 we had 4 in the box. Leach threw it anyway and we picked it off. IE gameplan working.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:07 pm to redfishfan
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They ran it 26 times
For 115 yards. Nearly a quarter of their yards. Keep up dumb dumb.
They average about 50yds/game under Leach.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:11 pm to msptigers
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For 115 yards. Keep up dumb dumb.
You are missing the point on purpose. LSU's alignment was going to give up yards on the ground. They did that on purpose because they knew Leach wouldn't stick with the run. He threw it 62 times buddy. And we had favorable numbers on those throws because we only had 4 guys in the box and dropped 1. So they had 5 Receivers versus 8 guys in coverage. That's a win for us. They had success running the ball because we played the run with 4 while they had 6 guys in there. Advantage State on runs. So if State was smart they would have ran the ball 62 times instead of throwing it 62 times. LSU knew Leach was gonna be Leach.
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:14 pm to Captain Crown
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This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:16 pm to redfishfan
They ran it twice as many times as they usually do for twice as many yards. Good to know it was planned for them to get nearly 5 yards 26 times during the game. Got em right where we want em
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:19 pm to msptigers
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They ran it twice as many times as they usually do for twice as many yards. Good to know it was planned for them to get nearly 5 yards 26 times during the game. Got em right where we want em
They had 3 points with with 30 seconds to go in the 3rd quarter and had run for the majority of their yards by then so year we did. Sorry you have zero X and O knowledge to understand very basic football concepts.
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:24 pm to victoire sécurisé
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Thunderbird, you spent a good bit of time on that, and it is spot-on.
But that’s what makes the human condition so infuriating. People come to differing conclusions based on the same observations.
Flott won the day. Clark merely didn’t lose it.
He's an All SEC player....as long has he doesn't have to diagnose a run play at the LOS and shed a block to make a tackle...cover anyone man to man....figure out where a misdirection play is going. Basically, he's your guy if you need someone to drop back, cover about 4 square yards of space....and help tackle someone after a gain of 6.
Think about all of the really good ILBs LSU has had over the years and how many "flash" plays they made when it looked like the were moving at a different speed than the rest of the guys (Sheppard, Minter, Beckwith, White, Queen). Then think about the MSU game. His ONLY notable play was picking up a fumble that was literally laying right in front of him.
He might be a great person. But as a LB he is essentially DJ Whelter
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:27 pm to redfishfan
X and Os expert has no idea the game is 4 quarters. Tire your defense out all game long keeping them on the field playing prevent defense 92 plays almost cost us the game. Their offense is average, there's no reason to treat them like the 2000 Rams. It was a gameplan built on fear.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:28 pm to redfishfan
They had 7 carries for 40 yards, (5.7 per carry) in the 4th quarter. The only quarter with as many rushing yards was the 1st when they had 40 on 6 carries.
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:38 pm to Alt26
This, I can’t get excited about a MLB who refuses to stick his nose in there, take on blockers and hit ball carriers head on. He doesn’t stop runners who are 30lbs lighter than him cold, he can’t cover and he misreads lanes more than anyone I’ve ever seen at LSU. If people wanna pump over a guy who jumps on piles 15 yards downfield it just shows we have no standards at LSU anymore.
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:59 pm to Madking
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I can’t get excited about a MLB who refuses to stick his nose in there, take on blockers and hit ball carriers head on.
I'm not questioning his courage or toughness. I think he is willing to "stick his nose in there". I just think he has little to no instincts as a ILB and is slow to diagnose the play...which allows the blockers to get on him and drive him 5, 10 yards off the ball, or he shoots the wrong gap on misdirection or counter plays.
All the guys listed above would quickly figure out who had the ball and run to the ball carrier like they were shot out of a cannon. It's not that Clark is afraid to do so. It's that he's perpetually unsure as to where the ball is
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:59 pm to msptigers
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It was a gameplan built on fear.
It was a gameplan that won the game. Funny thing is the drive they scored their first TD on we came out with 4 down linemen and went away from that gameplan to try to get more pressure and they marched down the field rather quickly. I guess we should have implemented the Bo gameplan. Very aggressive. Built on the opposite of fear. It worked last year let me tell you.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/30/21 at 3:50 pm to Alt26
I agree it seems more like confusion with him when it comes to attacking the LOS and finding the running lane to fill because when he was in the 3-4 he did a good job of taking on blockers to free up the other ILB for tackles.
Posted on 9/30/21 at 4:01 pm to Madking
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They had 7 carries for 40 yards, (5.7 per carry) in the 4th quarter. The only quarter with as many rushing yards was the 1st when they had 40 on 6 carries.
You are absolutely right! We should have been in the Universal stop the pass stop the run defense. Who would have thought a three man line and 2 LBs would give up 5 ypc...
Not to mention instruction to the LBs and DBs was not to get sucked in on the underneath routes and let a pass get thrown over LBs heads or in the zone seams. Imagine players doing what they are told...
Posted on 9/30/21 at 5:27 pm to Got Blaze
quote:Congrats to LB Coach Blake Baker...........
congrats to DC
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