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re: Curtis Givens now entering portal
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:00 pm to Alt26
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:00 pm to Alt26
The thing Chest really lacked, as did most of the team, was in basketball iq.
Bad decisions, trying to do too much (driving and dribbling), losing his cool and disappearing in the big games against superior big men. Not sorry to see him go. We will actually get to see on this one since we will be playing his team.
Bad decisions, trying to do too much (driving and dribbling), losing his cool and disappearing in the big games against superior big men. Not sorry to see him go. We will actually get to see on this one since we will be playing his team.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:27 pm to gotiger
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This model they have implemented
You're giving them too much credit.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:34 pm to Tom Bronco
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The thing Chest really lacked, as did most of the team, was in basketball iq.
Bad decisions, trying to do too much (driving and dribbling), losing his cool and disappearing in the big games against superior big men. Not sorry to see him go. We will actually get to see on this one since we will be playing his team
When everyone is making bad decisions or has a low basketball IQ what's more likely? The team just unfortunately has 9, 10, 11 individual "low IQ players"? Or they aren't being well coached and are being put in spots to make bad decisions?
If you are going to ask Chest to catch the ball in the post with his back to the basket and try to make a play, OR ask him to facilitate the offense, then expect poor results. But if you are going to allow him to rim-run, screen, and work on the backside of plays to clean up misses, then he can provide offensive production.
If you want to see a comp for Chest, look at JoJo Tugler with Houston. Tugler is 6'7. He averaged 6 ppg. He rarely shoots from the outside. He was the defensive POY in the Big 12 and the advanced analytics had him as the most impactful player in the NCAA Tournament besides Cooper Flagg and Johni Broome.
Chest was the physical presence McMahon has never had at LSU. He the explosive athlete who could block shots and dominate the glass. You don't care that he can't shoot. He defends and rebounds at a high level.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:46 pm to Lakeboy7
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Another option is not getting invested in college basketball (in its current form). The one and done culture did this to college basketball, not the fans.
If Bruce Pearl and Nate Oats can assemble Final Four programs at Auburn and Alabama, and make it to the dance year in and year out, LSU can hire a coach who can at least assemble and develop a competitive team. McMahon is not that guy. That much should be evident at this point.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:53 pm to jamarr
Why are all you mcmen dishonest hypocrites?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:34 pm to Alt26
The same people who were saying he was an NBA prospect 2 months ago are now saying we don’t need him. That tells you all you need to know about the mcmen. Their arguments and logic are purely situational and changes at the drop of a hat depending on which argument they’re making in that moment which are all meant to cover for or excuse McMahon.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:03 pm to Madking
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Why are all you mcmen dishonest hypocrites?
basketball is the topic. you don't have to go after everyone who doesn't despise McMahon to the extent required like an attack dog.
like if I say it's possible they could be good next year you don't have to say I am a lying hypocrite with no integrity and I moved the goalposts 8 times etc. you can just say you disagree based on previous record.
I know I am to blame here for feeding the troll, but surely you can calm down?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:06 pm to jamarr
That’s not only a straw man but an ignorant and hypocritical one. You either didn’t read the full exchange or you’re ignoring part of it because it aligns with your agenda. Either way you’re full of it.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:07 pm to Tom Bronco
quote:He is a POOOOOR man's Tyrus Thomas
The thing Chest really lacked, as did most of the team, was in basketball iq.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:14 pm to Madking
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straw man but an ignorant and hypocritical one
right, I know you said that to everyone a thousand times. its like you are playing mad libs and anytime anyone disagree you start banging out the words ignorant hypocrite liar goalposts straw man etc etc.
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your agenda
my agenda is that I would like to ask politely, please calm down
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:14 pm to SEC Doctor
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To be fair, this is happening all over, it's the demise of college basketball.
I have close to zero interest in it now
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:15 pm to jamarr
Says the guy who jumped in the thread with the sole purpose to attack someone. Typical hypocricy
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:21 pm to Alt26
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If you want to see a comp for Chest, look at JoJo Tugler with Houston
tugler is just better. a similar player, but better. better hands, better moves around the basket.
'the most important big man skill is ability to catch the ball" - will wade
chest is not a particularly skilled player with great hands like Oscar tshiebwe, and I doubt he will be much different at ole miss. we was a great rebounder because he is incredibly high energy and athleticism. but he isn't very talented.
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He the explosive athlete who could block shots and dominate the glass. You don't care that he can't shoot.
you definitely care that he cant shoot. there are players that are so good at other things that when they hurt the rest of the offense by failing to space the floor, its ok. chest was not at that level, and even if he was you would really prefer that he shoots.
also houston was a different style than almost every other team. maybe chest should go there. but most teams run offenses where a non shooter hurts pretty bad.
I predict he isn't amazing at ole miss.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:33 pm to jamarr
There’s zero data to support that argument.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:42 pm to Madking
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That’s not only a straw man but an ignorant and hypocritical one. You
You need to get a straw man tattoo
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:44 pm to Madking
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hypocricy
Hypocrisy
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:50 pm to JimTiger72
Oh so you guys can use the term only I can’t. I didn’t need you to prove my point for me but I do appreciate you doing it anyway.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:52 pm to Chalkywhite84
Not my fault certain posters lack the ability to defend their positions so they jump to these underhanded argumentative tactics. There’s a reason they have names for these things.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:53 pm to Madking
It was a spell check dumb arse
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:12 pm to jamarr
“Tugler is just better”
The two players compared over their first 522 minutes of college ball
Chest- 6.1ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.2blks, 0.6stl, 0.7apg, 60.7% FG, 44.8% FT, 0/0 from 3
Tugler- 3.9ppg, 4.3rpg, 1.2blks, 0.9stls, 0.3ast, 53.9% FG, 46.9% FT, 1/4 from 3
The two players compared over their first 522 minutes of college ball
Chest- 6.1ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.2blks, 0.6stl, 0.7apg, 60.7% FG, 44.8% FT, 0/0 from 3
Tugler- 3.9ppg, 4.3rpg, 1.2blks, 0.9stls, 0.3ast, 53.9% FG, 46.9% FT, 1/4 from 3
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