re: Could TM7 be the Best Football Player in LSU History?

Except for Pete Maravich, TM7 has the best ball skills of any player I have seen - PERIOD.

man some of y'all have VERY short term memories. Tyrann is a great player but no, he is not even close to the best LSU player in history. Tyrann gets a ton of hype and recognition because of how good the team is, something many other players didn't have the advantage of, especially with the media coverage of today. Players better, in college, than Tyrann (this could change if he continues to produce):
Kevin Faulk
Billy Cannon
Bert Jones
Josh Reed
Tommy Casanova
Glenn Dorsey (had the exposure of Tyrann)
Dalton Hilliard
Y.A. Tittle
Tommy Hodson

...to name a few, there's more

This thread reminds me of a "greatest ever" ESPN poll every time someone does something great, y'all need to pull back on the reigns a little bit

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He was our best db. Put Claiborne and TM stats next to each other and TM's dwarf Claiborne's

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claiborne was never sent on the blitz
teams threw away from him, or tried to all season, and he still had 6 picks, an INT td, and a KO td. tyrann picked up "stats" because he played more like a safety or rover. mo shut down the other teams #1 receiver every game

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He was our best db. Put Claiborne and TM stats next to each other and TM's dwarf Claiborne's

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Really this is your argument? Clairborne was the best DB in the nation last year and a Top 5 pick in the draft. Teams threw away from him and Chavis did not use him to blitz, instead leaving him one on one with the other team’s top receiver. It is obvious TM7 has a knack for forcing fumbles, and he can return a punt for a touchdown. But he is not a feared defensive back, teams will challenge him, sometimes he gets upper hand and sometimes they do. Sometimes stats tell the whole story and sometimes they do not, this is an issue where they don’t when talking about two players who are used in completely different ways on the defense. Over past 10 years we could probably name 5 other LSU defensive backs that were better than TM7. That in itself tells me he isn’t one of the “greatest” when he doesn’t stand out at his position.
LSU is very lucky to have TM7 and Chavis uses him to the best of his ability. Chavis puts TM7 in position to make plays and to cover up the flaws that he has. He doesn’t leave him on an island to cover the best player one on one, he is sent on the blitz, he is used in a unique way because of his abilities. TM7 has great instincts, he plays hard to make up for his physical short-comings, and is well received by both fans and media. He is a great player for LSU but I don’t see how he is the “greatest” player for LSU.

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Fifth overall pick in 2008 NFL Draft by Kansas City Chiefs
2007 Nagurski Award Winner
2007 Lombardi Award Winner
2007 Outland Trophy Winner
2007 Lott Award Winner
2007 Bednarik Award Finalist
2007 Walter Camp Award “Player to Watch”
2007 Consensus All-American
2007 First-Team All-American (AP, AFCA, Walter Camp Foundation, Football Writer’s Association of America, ESPN, Sporting News, CBSSports.com, Rivals.com)
2007 SEC Defensive Player of the Year (SEC Coaches, AP)
2007 First-Team All-SEC (SEC Coaches, AP)
2007 SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week (Sept. 22 vs. South Carolina)
2007 SEC Defensive Player of the Week (Nov. 3 vs. Alabama)
2007 SEC Community Service Team Player of the Week (Nov. 3 vs. Alabama)
2006 First-Team All-American (AP, AFCA, CBSSportsline.com, SI.com, Rivals.com)
2006 First-Team All-SEC (AP, SEC Coaches)
2006 SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week (Sept. 9 vs. Arizona)
2006 SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week (Sept. 16 vs. Auburn)
2006 First-Team All-American (AP, AFCA, CBSSportsline.com, SI.com, Rivals.com)
2006 First-Team All-SEC (AP, SEC Coaches)
2006 SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week (Sept. 9 vs. Arizona)
2006 SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week (Sept. 16 vs. Auburn)

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Much better player for LSU imo and could have been better if not for injury

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2004 First-Team All-America (American Football Coaches Assocation, Sporting News)
2004 Second-Team All-America (Walter Camp)
2004 First-Team All-SEC (AP)
2004 Second-Team All-SEC (SEC Coaches)
2004 Thorpe Award Semifinalist
2004 SEC Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Mississippi State)
2003 First-Team All-America (America Football Coaches Association)
2003 Second-Team All-America (Associated Press, Sports Illustrated, Collegefootballnews.com)
2003 First-Team All-SEC (AP, Coaches, ESPN.com, Collegefootballnews.com)
2003 SEC Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Georgia)
2003 Thorpe Award Semifinalist
2002 First-Team All-SEC (AP, Coaches, Sporting News)
2002 National Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Florida)
2002 SEC Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Florida)

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Much better DB in my opinion
Again, I am not knocking TM7, because he is a special and unique player, but he isn’t even the best player on the LSU defense so how can we consider him greatest of All-Time? That is some pretty Elite Company really.
Although the OP may have some stats skewed as well (or his LSU Bio is wrong), from his player bio on LSUSports.net, “In his 25 game career, he has created a total of 14 turnovers (eight fumble recoveries, four interceptions, 2 forced fumble recovered by a teammate) ... Already owns the school record with 11 forced fumbles after he recorded two against Kentucky (previous record was seven held by Ali Highsmith) ... The 11 career forced fumbles ranks as the seventh-highest total in NCAA history and ties Guss Scott of Florida for the SEC record ... Took over at one of the cornerback positions in 2011 for the departed Patrick Peterson ... Shifts to nickel back when the Tigers go to their other defensive packages ... “ Although it may be LSUSports.net as well not updating.

Hell no, not even close.

I always disliked the "best football player ever" question.It's unfair due to too many factors.

what era did each player play in?
what is it a running era or passing era?
what was the record of the teams?

I'll say this.TM7 will go down as one of the most competitive,ball hawking,play makers in college football defensive history.Same with PP & Mo.

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I believe Mo Claiborne won the THORPE AWARD FOR THE NATIONS BEST DEFENSIVE BACK, or was I dreaming that? what position does Tyrann play again?

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Ha which would you rather ?

Not many however they had impact as a defensive player just as much as TM7. He forced fumbles and had some highlight plays on national tv. I don't think he was best defensive player on LSU last year but he was the most hyped. Which plays a big part into many awards, always has and really always will. Self promotion and media promotion can influence voters just as much if not more so than actual play.
Also, stats don't always tell that true story and as I have used before can be manipulated to argue for or against what you want. Claiborne was a better DB last year and used differently.