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re: Continuing to fall behind with PMAC

Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:10 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58989 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:10 am to
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If the team wins, fans will pack any shitty arena. There’s no need to engage in a facilities race. Even if we win that, it’s temporary, and we’ll fall behind in a few years. It’s a fool’s errand. Just put a winning team on the floor, and the fans will come.


This. I think the Maravich is an eye sore. But if you just tweak seating and improve lighting (which they have already fixed some) it will be fine. Shows much better on TV than it used to.

Hopefully we get a crazy crowd in one of the women’s games
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25846 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:43 am to
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Hopefully we get a crazy crowd in one of the women’s games



There will be over 10k in there today.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40136 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:58 am to
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This. I think the Maravich is an eye sore. But if you just tweak seating and improve lighting (which they have already fixed some) it will be fine. Shows much better on TV than it used to.


The scoreboard is awesome.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3888 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:01 am to
One BILLION PERCENT correct on your post. These Jethro's on here either don't want to admit, or just as likely can't comprehend the difference between a revenue producing sport and a non revenue producing one.

They really love to hear THE FACT that if all college sports had to sink or swim on their own financially, football and men's basketball would be the only two in existence.

Now for the especially slow rantards, yes there are baseball programs that make money like LSU, and lesbian basketball programs that make money like UConn. But there are not nearly enough operating in the black to sustain competition nationally.

As you posted, LSU basketball has in the past, and would again in the future make A MINT if we just invested properly in it. LSU is treating it now like Jerrah Jones refusing to sign a soda deal with Pepsi or any other soft drink brand. Or not selling the naming rights to the stadium the cowgirls play in. Why would you neglect potentially lucrative revenue sources?
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
6193 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:17 am to
Place is fine
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58989 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:18 am to
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and lesbian basketball programs
was that necessary?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40136 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:30 am to
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Now for the especially slow rantards, yes there are baseball programs that make money like LSU, and lesbian basketball programs that make money like UConn.


I understand that you are smarter than the rest of us so can you link me to a source that says UConn Women’s basketball turns a profit.

Thxs in advance.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:50 am to
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poochie


quote:


It makes less than baseball


Women's basketball? Yes, it does. Men's bball in a losing season like thus one makes more than baseball on a natty run.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19132 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:02 am to
What’s in the basement of the PMAC nowdays?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40136 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:30 am to
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Women's basketball? Yes, it does. Men's bball in a losing season like thus one makes more than baseball on a natty run.


Here are the real basketball numbers from the LSU audit to the NCAA over the last five years. They do not breakout baseball.


Fiscal Year...........MBB P/L............WBB losses
7/1/21-6/30/22 $1,675,105.00. -$6,550,040.00
7/1/20-6/30/21 $-149,42/.00. -$4,217,883.00
7/1/19-6/30/20. -$496,919.00. -$4,348,191.00
7/1/18-6/30/19 $453,022.00. -$4,046,955.00
7/1/17-6/30/18. $292,921.00. -$4,221,675.00

If someone has the real baseball numbers, please share.


Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3888 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:00 pm to
An accurate description?? I would say it's necessary.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3888 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:12 pm to
If I'm incorrect about UConn making a profit in that meaningless sport, it FURTHER reinforces my argument, Einstein.

I've always been under the assumption that UConn, Tennessee S Carolina, Stanford, etc... turned a profit in the gal's game. Because political pressure forces them to pay their head coaches exorbitant salaries (see Nicky Fargas for a PRIME example), maybe none of them turn a profit. Who knows? Who cares?

The non revenue sports should not be carried by football and men's basketball. If the sports are as great as people say, they'd be able to survive with their own revenue streams.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40136 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:13 pm to
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I've always been under the assumption that UConn, Tennessee S Carolina, Stanford, etc... turned a profit in the gal's game


Your assumptions are incorrect.

quote:

he non revenue sports should not be carried by football and men's basketball. If the sports are as great as people say, they'd be able to survive with their own revenue streams.


You say that, but college athletics began as just a part of the college experience. Athletics wasn’t invented to make money.

The addition of TV changed everything.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3888 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:51 pm to
Once again it's a ONE BILLION PERCENT fact I was wrong stating UConn turns a profit in lesbian basketball.

It still STRENGTHENS my argument about carrying your own weight. The fact remains that if each sport was forced to sink or swim on their own financially, football and men's basketball would be the only two sports played on a national level.

We used to travel by rail to get from the east coast to the west coast. Now we travel by airplane. Yes, before electricity, sports were played as an extracurricular on college campuses. That genie is out of the bottle, and ain't getting back in.

I'm all for the sports that can't financially sustain play nationally to be relegated to club or intramural status on campus. After all, that was the original intention of college athletics, right?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40136 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:43 pm to
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I'm all for the sports that can't financially sustain play nationally to be relegated to club or intramural status on campus. After all, that was the original intention of college athletics, right?


Yes, that is how it all originally started out.

I do believe the kids shouldn’t be punished. Give out scholarships as always, but why pay head coaches, assistant coaches and administrators hundreds of thousands of dollars in sports that lose millions?

That’s what’s happened. Coaches, and administrators have made a lot if money because football is so successful.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7662 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:30 pm to
Nothing wrong with PMAC….
“Pete’s House”. Leave it alone
Don’t like it… stay home.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:40 pm to
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when it seems very obvious that our administration is objectively putting the second biggest revenue sport on the backburner.

Nah. WBB on the front burner.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
17986 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:40 pm to
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Arkansas already has a lot nicer of a venue


Are you kidding? Arkansas has one of the best facilities in the world. It’s decades, centuries ahead of LSU but it’s ahead of just about everyone in the country.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
933 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:35 am to
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This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:19 am to
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Nothing wrong with PMAC….
“Pete’s House”. Leave it alone
Don’t like it… stay home.



It's not Pete's house. He has no allegiance to it.
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