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Compare the 2 Jim H's

Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:07 am
Posted by Chill Pill
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
Member since May 2009
615 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:07 am
WWL was playing a montage this morning of Jim Henderson's greatest calls through the years, and it got me thinking about how the Saints' Jim H stacks up to the Tigers Jim H.

Both handle the play by play aspect of the game exceedingly well. Henderson is more prone to over the top hyperbole than Hawthorne.

Hawthorne has an air of haughtiness that suggests that his colleagues should only be heard when absolutely necessary. By contrast, everyone knows that Hokie is more idiot than side kick, yet Henderson doesn't allow the intelligence gap to affect how they work.

I think what it boils down to is who delivers the best during those moments that are so completely unexpected yet that impact the game and how it is perceived.

Clearly, Hawthorne's best moment came on the Warren Morris home run. He nailed it, and that call is probably his signature moment. But before we get to the Bluegrass Miracle debacle, ask yourself what other Hawthorne calls you would say come instantly to mind. There are several, but if you're like me, you have to think awhile. Marcus Spears INT ag/ the Sooners in the '03 NCG comes to mind, but unless you cue it up, can you rememebr what Hawthorne said? Same for any of the other more recent signature moments -- Mauck to Green in '03, Flynn to Byrd in '07, Cedrick Donaldson ag/ the Crocs in 1997, etc.

Now maybe it's an unfair comparison, because we've all listened to Henderson a million times in the last 2 weeks, but even before then, if you were to be asked about Henderson, it doesn't take long for "Hakeem drops the ball!" to come to mind, or "Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!" or "Devery Henderson can do the back stroke into the endzone!"

Henderson is not perfect. On Tracy Porter's INT return for the clinching SB points, twice he declared that Porter had gone 70 yards, when in fact, it was 74. But he immediately made up for that gaffe by declaring that, "He did it to Farve, and now he's done it to Manning!"

And so compare Jim Henderson's resume' to Jim Hawthorne, and when you further factor in what should have been the coup de grace of Hawthorne's call career, "Jack Hunt! Jack Hunt!" instead became his albatross.

CONCLUSION -- not only is Jim Hawthorne not in Jim Henderson's league, Hawthorne can't wipe the dog shite from Henderson's shoes.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
82096 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:13 am to
the fact of the matter is that jim henderson ain't on hawthorne's level in one department.

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63639 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:32 am to
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"Jack Hunt! Jack Hunt!"


I know that everybody kills him for this, but I was listening live when this happened. Hawthorne was so dejected from the certain defeat. You could hear it in his voice as he was setting up the last play. I'm quite certain that he was not paying that much attention to who was lined up on the field, and who wasn't. #8 and #9 aren't that far apart, and in the total shock of the moment, I'm sure many of us had no idea who actually caught it. We just weren't broadcasting across the airwaves.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:32 am to
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Compare the 2 Jim H's


The biggest loss I felt moving to Lafayette from outside of the NOLA area for college in 1988 was not getting to see Jim Henderson do the sports every day on the news.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
11076 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:36 am to
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Hawthorne was so dejected from the certain defeat.

He sounds like this all the time though. Driving home to Texas I was listening to the Arkansas game and honestly the guy had the biggest doom and gloom attitude while calling the last 8 minutes. Honestly I think Jim post on the rant or at least thinks like most that do.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15199 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:44 am to
Jim Henderson is the best sportscaster I've ever heard, radio or TV. Did WWL put up a clip of his commentary from last night?
Posted by Chill Pill
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
Member since May 2009
615 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:49 am to
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#8 and #9 aren't that far apart, and in the total shock of the moment, I'm sure many of us had no idea who actually caught it.


normally understandable but Jack Hunt played safety and someone correct me if I'm wrong -- had never, ever stepped on the field as a WR. I understand being caught up in the moment, but no way that even smells like a legitimate excuse.
Posted by GABY
Member since Nov 2008
34 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:52 am to
That is why freedom of speech is SO TERRIBLE, it allows idiots like you to state their ignorant thoughts, and catch me at a stupid moment in life where I allow myself to read your post and get angry.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15199 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:55 am to
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someone correct me if I'm wrong -- had never, ever stepped on the field as a WR.
He played a little bit the year before. But still a silly mistake. Hawthorne has got to be so sick of hearing about that shite.
Posted by airmonkee
Houma, La
Member since Mar 2009
188 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:10 am to
"Jack Hunt" ???
Posted by Newbomb Turk
perfectanschlagen
Member since May 2008
9961 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Both handle the play by play aspect of the game exceedingly well.


Have you ever watched a game that Hawthorne was announcing?

He's the absolute WORST.

He can't hold Henderson's jock.

Henderson defines professionalism. Hawthorne defies it.


quote:

Hawthorne's best moment came on the Warren Morris home run. He nailed it, and that call is probably his signature moment.


Other than the fact that he got it wrong ("3 run homer").

He's missed every major call he's ever had to make.

Jack Hunt.
Jack Hunt.
Jack Hunt.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42950 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Did WWL put up a clip of his commentary from last night?


yes
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3370 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Compare the 2 Jim H's


No flame intended but there is no comparison!!
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17848 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:46 am to
Hawthorne comes across as an angry old man.He needs to go,I don't think any other school has the same guy do all major sports.It would be diff if he was worth a shite to have to hear his shite in every sport has driven me away from the broadcasts.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8676 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:24 am to
Jim is like an old wife...Anytime anyone says anything, he contradicts it. When he's corrected, he tries to argue some ridiculous point to justify his being wrong. Strike that...Jim is like a wife.

Do I love his passion? Yes.
Is he a Tiger? Absolutely.
Does he make mistakes? All the time.

So why do I listen to him? It's just what I do. I listen to Jim, or whomever else is calling the games for LSU, whether I am in Tiger Stadium, the Box, or the PMAC. I listen to Henderson and Hokie..even did it for the Super Bowl and was seven seconds ahead of everyone else at the party on the pick-six and onsides kick (very difficult to wear a pokerface that long).

Maybe it's twisted, but I find it amusing to see just how off Hawthorne is while I'm watching the games in person and on T.V.--He calls a one yard gain and we go from having the ball at the 20 to the 26...We hit a two-run shot to win the CWS, he calls it a three-run shot...Jack Hunt, etc.

Jim Hawthorne...It's not accurate. Its' amusing.

On the other hand, Henderson is just about always spot on and could be a broadcaster in any major city. I don't think the same could be said for Hawthorne.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15199 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:27 am to
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Maybe it's twisted, but I find it amusing to see just how off Hawthorne is while I'm watching the games in person and on T.V.--

"tip up no good, tip up no good"

"DEEP FLY BALL -- caught at the edge of the grass at second base"
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:56 am to
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normally understandable but Jack Hunt played safety and someone correct me if I'm wrong -- had never, ever stepped on the field as a WR.

Actually Hunt was recruited to play wr. Saban converted him to defense prior to his jr season.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Jim Henderson is the best sportscaster I've ever heard, radio or TV. Did WWL put up a clip of his commentary from last night?

I've always admired Jim's professionalism as well. Remember he and Stram did CBS games for a couple of years(Larry Matson took Jim's place for the Saints calls)and he could have continued on with the network had he chosen to. Give WWL credit for knowing what they had(as well as the Saints)and luring him back to be the local guy.
Posted by nastynelly
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
3007 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:02 pm to
Does anyone have a link to the montage of henderson's calls described in the first post?
Posted by Tomcat
1825 Tulane
Member since Nov 2004
529 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:14 pm to
I would also like the link to Hederson's commentary if anyone has it. I had no luck finding it.
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