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re: Compare Paul Maneiri and Brian Kelly
Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:08 pm to TigerFanFromBama
Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:08 pm to TigerFanFromBama
quote:Ok, since you seem to think it's not relevant-quote:
Kelly a roster of 39 players
I can see it now... it's 2026/Year 5 and apologist will still be using this as an excuse to why LSU finished on the outside of the 12 team playoff.
list the seniors and redshirt juniors that were on the roster in 2021, that are now making an impact. Starters, backups, etc.
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:54 pm to Stevo
Read the thread. SammyTiger spelled this out above
So I guess you were right. It was a whopping 43 scholarship players who were P5 level and not promoted walk-ons (we had like 5 to help fill out the roster post-O).
Newsflash- that’s a lot less than 85. Even with 15 HS recruits and another 15 or 16 in the portal that year, we still didn’t have a full roster.
quote:
I’m looking through that roster and i’m seeing about 42-43 players from 2021 on the 2022 that I believe would be scholarship players on a normal team. the question mark is Jared Small. 22/43 were from the 2021 class. and that 43 includes some ST guys and a lot of guys who then transfered at the end of 2022.
So I guess you were right. It was a whopping 43 scholarship players who were P5 level and not promoted walk-ons (we had like 5 to help fill out the roster post-O).
Newsflash- that’s a lot less than 85. Even with 15 HS recruits and another 15 or 16 in the portal that year, we still didn’t have a full roster.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:42 am to misey94
SammyTiger is wrong. It was more than 43. And some of them were NFL caliber. While the numbers were down, BK wasn't starting from scratch. That team he inherited had just beaten a ranked A&M team. Still doesn't explain the poor recruiting on defensive side of the ball.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 8:44 am
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:24 am to Ralphiemay
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I can say there aren’t 2 first rounders on the current team
You don't think we have two first rounders on this team . We have at least 3 just for this season and this draft. He'll, there's a mock draft on page 1 that has 4 guys listed just for this year's draft. 3 of which I'd say are a lock.
three recruited by Kelly, I believe.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:35 am to Tigerpride18
Jones and Campbell most likely are first rounders . Nuss was a coach O recruit . Can’t see anyone else who’s draft eligible being first rounders , nuss would have to have a great season to get into the first round .
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:40 am to lsu777
Paul had no talent his first year. You could see improvement the next year
Posted on 9/20/24 at 2:32 pm to prplhze2000
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Paul had no talent his first year. You could see improvement the next year
CPM was a very good coach. His last 4 years though, we were like .500 in SEC play. It was time. He left CJJ almost no pitching but a well-stocked lineup otherwise. Much better than the mess O left for CBK.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 3:26 pm to Ralphiemay
Perkins?
Posted on 9/20/24 at 4:22 pm to Tigerpride18
Not based off his on field performance the past 2 seasons . He might run well and test well , but he is under sized . It’s possible a team could take him in round 1.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:42 pm to Ralphiemay
Ok so you admit we could have 4 first rounders this year and before I replied to you , you said we had none. Around here you need to have your arguments thought out ahead of time. You talk shite about Brian Kelly being unprepared. You came into this thread unprepared and didn't even make adjustments after you were called out on certain points you made
Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:47 pm to Tigerpride18
Ok fig, you’re changing your argument . You listed a bunch of second tier players that don’t start and their recruiting rankings . I stand by the statement that none of them will be first rounders . Then you changed the story to include the mock draft which had Campbell , Jones and Nuss . And claimed Nuss as a Kelly recruit . Anyway arguing with a gay idiot just proves that there are two , so I’m not going to continue to go back and forth with you . Bottom line , Kelly will get us plenty 8-10 win seasons but never a championship, some people are slow to catch on , I’m sure you are the epitome of that . You’ll realize this in a year or three . Best of luck in your pursuit of being cock sucker of the year .
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:18 pm to Ralphiemay
I said 3 of the 4 are Kelly recruits and I thought you said nobody on this team he recruited would be 1st rounders. Why are you calling me a fig? Are you under 21 years old or something. I'm a grown fricking man
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:40 pm to Stevo
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SammyTiger is wrong. It was more than 43. And some of them were NFL caliber. While the numbers were down, BK wasn't starting from scratch. That team he inherited had just beaten a ranked A&M team. Still doesn't explain the poor recruiting on defensive side of the ball.
No he’s not. Revisionist horseshite from nutlickers like yourself who still prefer O despite that fact that he ran the fricking program into a ditch. It’s amazing how stupid this fanbase is. Just look at how few impact players are left from O’s tenure. We have NO upperclassman depth because of his shite.
How poor is defensive recruiting looking today?
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:45 pm to Tigerpride18
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I said 3 of the 4 are Kelly recruits and I thought you said nobody on this team he recruited would be 1st rounders. Why are you calling me a fig? Are you under 21 years old or something. I'm a grown fricking man
This a-hole is 100% not an LSU fan. And he’s also football illiterate.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 12:39 am to misey94
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How poor is defensive recruiting looking today?
Assume you're asking the question to anyone. IMO, our talent on the D-side this year is pretty pedestrian. So I don't think CBK has recruited the D-side well thus far. If you mean The '25 class looks really good if we can hang on to it.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 1:04 am to AlwysATgr
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IMO, our talent on the D-side this year is pretty pedestrian.
We are seeing flashes of talent that definitely wasn’t developed or used well at all under House. Swinson was the SEC Defensive Player of the Week and has looked great in all three games. Jones has looked faster and more athletic like we saw in his freshman season. Add Womack and Shand and we have a really strong rotation at DE.
Weeks is raw, but he definitely has talent. We all know Perkins has talent and elite athleticism. Zy Alexander is a really good CB. We also have some very promising younger guys like Breaux, Reliford, Spears and Woodland. We obviously need more, especially at DT and CB, but this 25 class is strong on both.
The problem isn’t that we have no talent. It’s that the talent is mostly young guys. The lack of impact upperclassmen on this defense is a problem. Ryan, Burns and Penn are all just very limited player. Guillory looked like he was ready to make a step forward, but him going down so early was just a really tough break. West Weeks plays hard, but he’s not much more athletic than Penn. But that’s it. These are the only O holdovers and older transfers left. Your upperclassmen are supposed to be your core and your leadership and these guys aren’t that.
Are you really worried about flips this year? Most of these guys seem pretty solid, and I’m sure the fact that they’re all being very well paid has something has a lot to do with that. We didn’t get Underwood and Berry committed without laying out serious cash. There were reports a month ago that we set the high for the RB market with Berry. And I’m sure the defensive recruits all know they will have real shots at PT in year one, especially with 4 true freshmen already getting reps in every game.
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