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re: Coach O should be fired immediately.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:47 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:47 am to The Pirate King
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you get 2021 to fix it but you can’t make any staff changes
Running through coordinators every season isn't a recipe for success when your hit rate is about 15%.
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:47 am to NAsh-vegas Tigah
but Ole Miss didn't win a National Championship.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:51 am to whitefoot
No one who seriously follows the program thinks O should be fired after this year (not as a result of a title IX or sexual misconduct).
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:51 am to LSUDAN1
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He has made LSU a program for quitters. Screw that. Woodward do your job.
no. Let him be implicated in the Title IX investigation, and fire him without buying him out.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:55 am to RB10
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I agree with the latter, but he's earned the right to try and fix it. He just needs to ride or die with Pelini
He doesn’t have a choice here. LSU is strapped and can’t afford the buyout. Don't be shocked when you see the same staff next season.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:10 pm to RB10
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Unless they can get out of the contract with cause, Orgeron isn't going anywhere.
So your next option is to see if he can fix it. Problem there is you literally can't let him fire Pelini, and for a multitude of reasons. If he's fired, and the next hire fails, you are eating Orgeron, Pelini, a new OC and new DC in contracts. Not to mention position coaches.
I get what you're saying, but at some point you have to weigh sunk costs vs opportunity costs. Without knowing the actual numbers, it's hard to determine which route is better.
But I really don't think Pelini coming back is an option at this point. I can't imagine their relationship is salvageable. If Orgeron isn't going to be allowed to hire a new DC (and I agree with you that he really shouldn't be allowed to do so), then they need to promote Raymond or Busch and back fill a position coach position.
I think Orgeron with Pelini as DC is like 4th on my preference list behind cutting bait altogether and either letting him hire a new DC or promoting a new DC.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:12 pm to whitefoot
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If Orgeron isn't going to be allowed to hire a new DC (and I agree with you that he really shouldn't be allowed to do so), then they need to promote Raymond or Busch and back fill a position coach position.
This is the only option I see. Bringing in another Orgeron hire isn't an option. Promote Raymond and let him fill the DB position.
ETA: Only option I see other than keeping Pelini.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:12 pm to whitefoot
Coach O should not be fired .He gets nice wool . Isd a great guy and LSU will rebound next yr .
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:18 pm to jcanale4
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No one who seriously follows the program thinks O should be fired after this year
Seriously?
Let's see what the roster looks like in January.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:20 pm to whitefoot
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Let's see what the roster looks like in January.
If there's more attrition, and the recruiting class slides outside the top 10, I don't think it matters what's done next year. Orgeron will be a dead man walking.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:20 pm to LSUDAN1
I was the king of O negatives. But I'm willing to give him a mulligan for 2020. He earned it last year, and not having a proper offseason put us at an unfair disadvantage.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:21 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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not having a proper offseason put us at an unfair disadvantage
Stop with this shite. LSU was at no more of a disadvantage than anyone else.
They got embarrassed by a team with a new coaching staff, entirely new offense and a new QB in the first game of the season.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:34 pm to LSUJuicer
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Fire a coach after arguably the best season in college football history. That’s how you get great coaches to come. Lol
Pretty much everyone knows that last season had very little to do with Os HC ability. The stars aligned and he caught lightning in a bottle at the same time. He is the epitome of Chizik and Coker 2.0.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:51 pm to Brazos
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Chizik and Coker 2.0.
shite, I have no argument against that at this moment.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:53 pm to Brazos
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Pretty much everyone knows that last season had very little to do with Os HC ability. The stars aligned and he caught lightning in a bottle at the same time. He is the epitome of Chizik and Coker 2.0.
And 2017 and 2018? That’s a long arse bolt of lightning
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:54 pm to The Pirate King
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The Pirate King
I know you'll duck this question again, but here you go anyway:
Who's the better DC? Aranda or Pelini?
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:56 pm to Powerman
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I don't expect to find the defensive version of Joe Brady but that's the mindset we should have.
It should be the mindset with every hire. When Brady left, go look for the next Brady that is sitting on an NFL staff in some assistant role that knows an offense like Chiefs or Rams or back to the Saints. You know they replaced Brady somewhere. Don't hire a DC and pay him a max contract when noone else wanted him.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:57 pm to The Pirate King
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And 2017 and 2018? That’s a long arse bolt of lightning
Fans like you said a moron could win 10 games a year at LSU. Les Miles was y'all's favorite example.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:35 pm to RB10
just like CLM, we will know 3 games into next season where O is headed, he has proved he is not the ceo so now can he just be a coach. Being a recruiter does not mean that you are head coach material.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:45 pm to 756
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he has proved he is not the ceo so now can he just be a coach
We already know he can't do that. He's said as much himself over the years.
In 2017, he had no idea why Brossette got the opening handoff against Troy that was fumbled.
Last week, he had no idea why Stingley wasn't on Smith the first half.
This is the head fricking coach of the team having no understanding of his team's gameplan. Those are things he's actually said in interviews. That's not me reading into anything.
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