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re: Coach O needs a new spotter bad

Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:10 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33882 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:10 am to
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Burrow's run may have been a TD and it may not have been, but the spot at the one yard line was horrendous.


Well yeah, that's why it should've been challenged.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:10 am to
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Last drive of the game was botched as well with the indecisiveness to kick a FG or go for it on fourth down. Led to a delay of game forcing us to punt.

If they come back to tie that game, the focus would be on that sequence today and Coach O would be under fire.

We weren't kicking a FG in that situation. O wanted Burrow to get to the line and try to draw the defense offsides. If that happens, we run out the clock. If not, we take the delay of game and still punt.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:20 am to
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but those calls are really easy stuff

lol, no it's not. The HC is dependent on someone in the press box to tell him. It's virtually impossible to see those kind of plays at ground level unless it happens right in front of them.

They need to take a look at their process.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:24 am to
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I was surprised Burrow didn't act more like he scored. He appeared to be the one pushing for next play


This tells me he thought he was short. Usually you can judge by a player’s reaction on what happened on a play because they know more than anyone.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16376 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:02 pm to
Maybe the "spotter" lacked the time being they hurried to the line to run another play faster than superman. One of the players should see those things and tell the coaches they need a review.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33882 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Maybe the "spotter" lacked the time being they hurried to the line to run another play faster than superman. One of the players should see those things and tell the coaches they need a review.


The players??

You don't rely on players to make an assessment of whether they made a play or got the distance necessary.

There's someone that should be monitoring these situations in the booth and whoever this guy is has failed the team on multiple occasions now.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20476 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:06 pm to
Excellent point.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12267 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:09 pm to
So correct me if I am wrong, which I am more than sure some of you would love to do.lol

But, on the muffed punt, it looked like a catch, no bobble, etc. Ball hit ground, thus looked like a possible fumble as the catch and ball hitting ground were so close together. I thought the ground could not technically cause a fumble in college football if down or completed catch. Bombs away.
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
Nola
Member since Aug 2018
743 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:12 pm to
TigerRee was supposed to be the spotter but he was too busy playing around on Tigerdroppings.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17101 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:13 pm to
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l, no it's not. The HC is dependent on someone in the press box to tell him. It's virtually impossible to see those kind of plays at ground level unless it happens right in front of them.

They need to take a look at their process


None of what you said suggests that it isn't really easy for coaches to have access to the information to make that call. Anyone watching on TV could see in real time it was a bad spot. So if we don't have a system where that information iss efficiently relayed to the coach, we are fricking up a very simple and routine aspect of modern coaching.

Yes, it's easy to make calls on challenges like the Burrow reach.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5407 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:20 pm to
UCF defense was gassed and all you need is less than a yard. get the first down and the game is over. You'd think he'd learn his lesson after the bowl game last year.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71217 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Last drive of the game was botched as well with the indecisiveness to kick a FG or go for it on fourth down. Led to a delay of game forcing us to punt.

I don't think we were ever going for it. We never should have attempted a FG there IMO. It was a 50+ yard attempt. If we miss, they get good field position. If it gets blocked, it creates even more issues. Regardless, we pinned them at the 10 yard line with 45 seconds and no timeouts. We won the game. I also think he just wanted Burrow to get to the line and try to draw them offsides and planned to take the 5 yard penalty regardless.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11187 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:29 pm to
It's ridiculous that the replay officials didn't review that play. I understand the coaches not wanting to use a challenge since they were thinking it was highly probably we'd score with 2 chances from the 1.

But there was plenty of time for the replay officials to stop play. They had until the next snap of the ball. So, they had the time from the initial spot, the time it took the officials to set the ball at the 1, the time it took us to get lined up, the time it took the officials to call the false start and move the ball back, the time it took for us to get lined up again and snap the ball.

After the false start, we should have gone ahead and challenged and I'm not sure why we didn't. Orgeron definitely needs to step up his feel for the challenge rules. I think overall he's really good and managing the game and clock, but he appears to be really weak in the area of when and how to use a challenge.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2751 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
Agreed! I failed to mention this in my end-of-season analysis of the coaching staff and team. Very good point. When we play an equally talented team away from home it seems the bias is there and the LSU coaching staff needs to be more prepared. If we can see this on the TV screen you would think someone upstairs is paying attention. Maybe all they need is someone to watch the damn game on TV and call in to let coaching staff know. Crazy how good the TV and replay booth commentators see things so quickly and accurately. Any volunteers?

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12626 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:07 pm to
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After the false start, we should have gone ahead and challenged and I'm not sure why we didn't.

Can you actually challenge the previous play once the false start occurs? I assumed that the challenge would have had to occur prior to the false start.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11187 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Can you actually challenge the previous play once the false start occurs? I assumed that the challenge would have had to occur prior to the false start.

Here is the rule:
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The replay official and his crew shall review every play of a game. He may stop a game at any time before the ball is next legally put in play

I've actually seen this happen in the NFL, but I wasn't sure if college was the same, so I looked the rule up.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12267 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:14 pm to
Thank u. For your feedback, much appreciated .:(
Posted by anne
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
921 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:56 pm to
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The fact that we ran hurry up on a play that the booth could have reviewed or we could have reviewed is mindblowing.




This isn't the NFL...how many times have you actually seen a booth review in a situation like this during a college game?

Its easy to 2nd guess the coaches from your living room with TV replay...the hurry up has been extremely effective for us.
Posted by dustytiger123
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
874 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:19 pm to
I guess he needs to have someone watching the game on tv... because the announcers usually call it.. they seem to have a better tv picture than anyone else
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:55 pm to
That’s not a spotter issue it’s a head coaching issue
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