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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:15 pm to Howyouluhdat
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:15 pm to Howyouluhdat
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They haven't slowed down at all. They just played a really bad game like all teams do. When's the last time they have lost 2 games in a row? When they stop recruiting like they are then they will slowly begin to fade but that has not and will not happen anytime soon
I don't disagree with a thing you just said. They had one bad game. That's all it was in my opinion.
Now if Bama starts losing 2 or more games a season starting next year, the notion of Saban losing a step or slowing down can be debated. Until then it's just nonsense.
I'll believe the're slowing down when they stop having 12, 13 and 14 win seasons and stop going to the playoffs every year.
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:20 pm to SammyTiger
quote:No way.
Depth is great in a season, but with nothing after this game I bet You each side played probably less than 44 players.
Clemson's snap count for 2017 showed 52 players with 100+ snap count - another 12 had 50+. And that was just O & D. Some duplication on special teams but you can add at least another 15 players with significant snap counts. More like 65 to 70 plus.
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This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:27 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
1. That’s 2017, I’m talking about the 1 game Clemson played Alabama in the 2018 season
2. That’s the full season not one game.
3. Like I said, depth is important in the season. If everyone is healthy you aren’t player 28 guys on offense. You’re playing 5 Ol, 2-3 RB 4-5 Wr 2 TE maybe and 1 QB until junktime.
Clemson doesn’t need to be three deep in any one game. If you have rotational depth, like guys you can bring in to give certain players a rest, you’re good for a game if people stay healthy
Clemson was missing 1 started at their deepest position.
2. That’s the full season not one game.
3. Like I said, depth is important in the season. If everyone is healthy you aren’t player 28 guys on offense. You’re playing 5 Ol, 2-3 RB 4-5 Wr 2 TE maybe and 1 QB until junktime.
Clemson doesn’t need to be three deep in any one game. If you have rotational depth, like guys you can bring in to give certain players a rest, you’re good for a game if people stay healthy
Clemson was missing 1 started at their deepest position.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If that were the only measure then you'd have a great point,
As LSU fans...which you're not...it's the only measure we ought to care about in regards to Sabam and BAMA.
Unless of course we get some sort of de-facto credit for living vicariously through Clemson that I don't know about...
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Typo. My bad. Yes, Saban has had FAR better talent to work with than Dabo. Not even close
What are you basing this on?
Recruiting rankings? The same ones that you say are horribly flawed?
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:35 pm to Goldrush25
He’s basing it on recruiting rankings and ignoring the actually players who played in the game.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:41 pm to SammyTiger
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He’s basing it on recruiting rankings and ignoring the actually players who played in the game.
I think these guys might want to start backing away REALLY QUICKLY from the argument that coaches should ALWAYS beat teams they outmatch with talent...or otherwise the winning coach is clearly better than the loser based on that one game.
We want to go down that road, cause that will surely get this thread to 300 pages.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:43 pm to SammyTiger
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He’s basing it on recruiting rankings and ignoring the actually players who played in the game.
Having way better talent to practice and compete against matters as well
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:43 pm to GeauxTigerTM
It’s just a dumb position to ignore that Clemson wasn’t as deep but was still had amazing talent and enough of it to compee with Bama.
They were so far behind that having the best player on the field at QB wasn’t enough. There is a reason franchise QBs make more than everyone else.
They were so far behind that having the best player on the field at QB wasn’t enough. There is a reason franchise QBs make more than everyone else.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:44 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I think these guys might want to start backing away REALLY QUICKLY from the argument that coaches should ALWAYS beat teams they outmatch with talent...or otherwise the winning coach is clearly better than the loser based on that one game.
We want to go down that road, cause that will surely get this thread to 300 pages.
We could go down the Troy road and things will get very ugly very quickly.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:49 pm to Goldrush25
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We could go down the Troy road and things will get very ugly very quickly.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:50 pm to Goldrush25
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We could go down the Troy road and things will get very ugly very quickly.
I recall some in this very thread suggesting they out talented us that night...
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:50 pm to GeauxTigerTM
THis threads going to live forever
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:50 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Really. Most people had Tua as the better QB. Did the Clemson'd QB get invited to the Heisman ceremony? Why not?
They were so far behind that having the best player on the field at QB wasn’t enough.
And you're numbers on playing time are low - A quick look at ESPN's box score shows Clemson used 7 WR's, and and no way did Clemson use only 5 OL. You're making stuff up... again.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:54 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Just admit the painfully obvious. Dabo is now a better coach than Saban. Beat him 2 out of the 3 last times they played for all the marbles.
Either Saban has lost a step, or Dabo is better than Saban ever was.
[Love seeing all the Saban fan boys get triggered]
Either Saban has lost a step, or Dabo is better than Saban ever was.
[Love seeing all the Saban fan boys get triggered]
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:55 pm to SammyTiger
I can't remember who said this earlier in the thread so my apologies for not knowing who to give credit to, but if the O sucks/O is a God conversation can mostly stay here then that's probably a good thing.
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:56 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
LINK
Count them in the Alabama game
35 players with 10 or more O/D snaps.
And that’s just 10 snaps.
Count them in the Alabama game
35 players with 10 or more O/D snaps.
And that’s just 10 snaps.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:56 pm to TigerLunatik
Nice pivot
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:57 pm to TigerLunatik
It was actually me
I love This thread.
I love Knowing I can Always come here for an arguement
And the evolution of the topics has been interestingz
I love This thread.
I love Knowing I can Always come here for an arguement
And the evolution of the topics has been interestingz
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/22/19 at 3:57 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Just admit the painfully obvious. Dabo is now a better coach than Saban. Beat him 2 out of the 3 last times they played for all the marbles.
Either Saban has lost a step, or Dabo is better than Saban ever was.
Do you believe that Dan Mullen is for sure a better coach than Orgeron? Or do you think he's gotten the best of him with less talent the last 2 years and we need more of a sample size to make a definitive statement?
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