re: Coach O Is Crushing It

No one said it.

You keep implying it.

When people say the offense needed a first down, it means we should have a good enough offense to get 10 yards. Period.

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&M had the second rated rush defense at the time. E

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This is where i bring up your dismissal of run defenses we played in November 2015.
Youre just a hypocrite.

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Nope you originally said play to your strength run the clock and protect the ball.

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And if you can't get the first, trust your defense.

That's how the game is played, chief. You play the odds.

Again

Trusting the defense is always a plan be to running 3 times getting the first down and winning the game.

And our offense wasn’t good enough to do that.

Our passing game was close to trustworthy enough to even try doing that.

THATS a failure on the offense.

There is no getting around the fact that ournoffense could have won the game and didn’t

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And if you can't get the first, trust your defense.

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You should be able to get 10 yards to win the game. Why didnt o trust this amazing passing game against a&m?

Just like youre blasting 2016 for not driving down the field.

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Trusting the defense is always a plan be to running 3 times getting the first down and winning the game.

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True.

But you don't take risks. If you can't safely pick up the first, You pin your opponent deep and let your defense hold them.

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Trusting the defense is always a plan be to running 3 times getting the first down and winning the game. 

And our offense wasn’t good enough to do that. 

Our passing game was close to trustworthy enough to even try doing that. 

THATS a failure on the offense. 

There is no getting around the fact that ournoffense could have won the game and didn’t

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But not getting the first down in and of itself is a failure.

And the fact that our offense was pretty abismal all season up to that point doesn’t bail it out.

It’s no different than not being able to run the ball when it counted in 2015 or 2016.

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I would bet money that it was a loyalist of the HC that brought up Miles to tear him down so that the coach looks better.

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You mean this post, that I responded to:

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Miles had run the program down to the point that winning 10 games was the highest possible achievement. Orgeron "appears" to have moved the team into a position that 10 wins is the norm.

Miles was recruiting the easy players - Louisiana talent and skill players who wanted to be at DBU - and letting our offensive and defensive line talent languish. Orgeron is killing himself trying to fill the gaps until he can get recruiting back to where it should be. His first real class was ranked about 15th, but it was well balanced. His second class was ranked 5th but he had a huge shortcoming at defensive back. His third class is currently ranked number one.

His season records have been 8-4, 9-4, 10-3. Both his recruiting and his actual records point to improvement. Miles' last years were 10-3, 8-4, 9-3 (three really bad embarrassing losses), and 2-2 when he was finally fired. And Miles' classes, while ranked fairly high, left whole position groups neglected.

Orgeron's first three years look a lot better than Miles' last three. I'm one of the few on here who remember that you were actually in favor of Miles being fired at the end. You often are unjustly accused of being a Miles defender when you are actually just stating your opinion that Ed Orgeron gets credited for doing what got Miles fired. I just don't agree that the positive trajectory under Orgeron is the same as the slightly negative trajectory under Miles. And it's my opinion that Miles' trajectory was about to get a lot worse. That 2-2 was ugly, and the negativism around the program was going to be hard to overcome.

I don't think Orgeron is a better coach than Miles. I don't think he's even as good as far as ability goes. But Orgeron is working hard. Miles was on cruise control. Big time SEC football is no place for a coach who is complacent. Orgeron hasn't proven himself yet, but he's proven a lot of us wrong. I thought he would be a disastrous coach. He's turned out at least OK. Let's see where he goes from here. I sure am excited about the 2019 recruiting class, and I think he might dethrone Alabama with his 2020 class. Can he do it on the field?

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Well, people would probably still be bitching about the inept passing game which severely limited LSU's ability to win.

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Probably so Roger. At least you would, since you really seem to be hung up on a passing game since this is twice in the last couple of days that you've whined about the LSU passing attack under Miles, all the while praising o and e for their new and improved passing attack.

Never mind the fact that the rushing game dropped into the 50's nationally (59 to be exact) this past year as opposed to #7 during Miles final full season.

And both season we lost 3 games. Imagine that.