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re: Coach O is a genius for getting JOE BURROW from Ohio State.

Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:34 pm to
I'll admite wer were better at the end of the season than when we played Southeastern

but youre acting liek we were trending to this offense

Which is jsut fricking BS

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And that was a more traditional offense.


A more traditional shittier offense, but thats my point. so you don't really get to argue it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299594 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:39 pm to
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but youre acting liek we were trending to this offense


We definitely had some changes in the passing game, just not to this extent. The WRs and QB were more on the same page toward the end. Brady brought a wealth of information and it's been amazing

But there's a huge difference between being passing game coordinator and OC.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:39 pm to
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I heard Brady only chimes in occasionally when E needs additional insight. So the credit should go to Ensminger for this new offense that fits Burrows skillset.


You guys can tell these lies to yourselves but E had a while to install this type of offense and it didn't work until Brady got here.

Burrow himself said that last year he couldn't have imagined the offense would be this good. He said things changed when Brady showed up. So you want to go with your version of events or Burrow's?
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:44 pm to
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But there's a huge difference between being passing game coordinator and OC.


We've changes a lot more than the passing game though

The tempo, the complete lack of a huddle, the way we read defenses and adjsut to what we see, the way we deal with pressure and passrushing.

The red zone offense is all brady.

Do you remember what E said when someoen asked about our redzones truggles last year?

He pointed out that we didn't have enough depth at TE and FB. Is FB depth an issue this year?

Expereince doesn't take you from 16 TDs in a season to 25 in 6 games.

He thre 3 TD vs FLorida who was a top 10 defense

They've given up 12 TDs in 7 games and we scored 6 of them

Thats a lot more than expereince.

Have you ever seen an offense improve this much in 1 off season just based on experience?

Scheme > experience

And the strategy we employ is so different
And our pay calling tendencies

Brady has influenced every aspect of the game, ad i bet once he gets out on the recruiting trail he is going to tear it the frick up.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:51 pm to
We’re doing literally nothing we did last season. For anyone to pretend like Brady is some “icing on the cake” instead of the bottom line with this offense is either ignorance or dishonesty.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299594 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:52 pm to
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We've changes a lot more than the passing game though


Sure

That has nothing to do with the idea that the PC is not quite ready to be the OC. There's a fairly large offensive staff and analysts contributing to this offense.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

We’re doing literally nothing we did last season. For anyone to pretend like Brady is some “icing on the cake” instead of the bottom line with this offense is either ignorance or dishonesty.



Quick question; what football assistant coach of the past is regarded fondly by our fanbase?

I can't think of one. This is what we do, we praise at first then methodically tear down our assistants. This is the quickest I've seen it happen. We have to figure out a way to make them flawed enough to where they need to stay here.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:57 pm to
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That has nothing to do with the idea that the PC is not quite ready to be the OC. There's a fairly large offensive staff and analysts contributing to this offense.


A lot of which were there last year.

Again if something seems obvious it probably is.

The offense is drastically different, the biggest change in the coaching staff is Brady. HE probably has more to do with it than Mickey Joseph
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:59 pm to
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That has nothing to do with the idea that the PC is not quite ready to be the OC.


How do you know he's not ready?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 4:59 pm to
Let’s just be honest about this, Ensminger is there to make sure we didn’t have a repeat in communications breakdown the way we did with Canada. Ensminger is Orgerons thumb just in case Orgeron has any issues with what Brady was bringing in. Now that he knows what he’s got what will likely happen is Steve will finally get to retire and Brady will get the job.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299594 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:00 pm to
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A lot of which were there last year.


You fail to understand dynamics.

Whether you want to believe it or not, it's Ensminger offense. Brady has been a fantastic addition.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290874 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:02 pm to
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We’re doing literally nothing we did last season. For anyone to pretend like Brady is some “icing on the cake” instead of the bottom line with this offense is either ignorance or dishonesty.


I’ve never seen you post something so rational.

Congrats on the lobotomy
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:03 pm to
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You fail to understand dynamics.

Whether you want to believe it or not, it's Ensminger offense. Brady has been a fantastic addition.


I have eyes, and i know if Ensminger could have come up with anything close to this he would have last year.

And he couldn't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299594 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:04 pm to
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How do you know he's not ready?



Rich coming from you..

I believe he will be by seasons end
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299594 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Again if something seems obvious it probably is.


It's obvious that Brady brought a hell of a lot with him and it's phenomenal. It's also obvious that it seems Ensminger offense.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:06 pm to
Orgeron wanted everything Brady was selling except the salesman. Ensminger is nothing more than a firewall.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299594 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Ensminger is nothing more than a firewall.


So you're in the clubhouse and hip to the entire dynamics. Interesting.

It's Es offense. It's Brady's plays.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
7118 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:07 pm to
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have eyes, and i know if Ensminger could have come up with anything close to this he would have last year.

And he couldn't.


And we finished ranked #6 in the county. What a shitty job he did.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:09 pm to
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It's obvious that Brady brought a hell of a lot with him and it's phenomenal. It's also obvious that it seems Ensminger offense.


I don't know what you're watching that looks anything like last season's offense.

But we'll see which coach is highly sought after and which one isn't. People can fool themselves or pay lip service to how this is Ensminger's offense but I'm guessing he won't get a sniff from anyone asking them to run their offense.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 5:10 pm to
if that’s what you need to tell yourself by all means continue.
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