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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:22 pm to Charter n Coke
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:22 pm to Charter n Coke
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It would have been an easy double had the hit and run not been on
How would it have been an easy double if there had been no hit and run?
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:22 pm to Bernie Moore
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especially with the slowest runner in lineup batting.
So now you are blaming Ross?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:23 pm to Topwater Trout
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The sac bunt has like a %70 success rate.
Stealing a base is also around 70% and you dont give up an out. I know Katz isnt a burner but there are people you can pinch run.
Again, easy to look back and say what was wrong. In the moment you go with the instincts your years of coaching have given you
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:23 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Wow. You probably shouldn't have bothered posting
Just curious, have you played baseball? How is a hit and run executed?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:23 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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This isn't always true either. Some of you that think you know the game so well really don't
Im done with you dude. You said this exact same thing early. Either way Raph hit a ground ball for a DP like he always does, hit and run or not.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:23 pm to The Boat
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I agree completely. You take the bunt off with a 2-0 count.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:23 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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You want yo explain to me why something else is a better option there? Bottom of the 9th, down by 1, runner on 1st with 0 outs you bunt. End of story. That's it. The sac bunt has like a %70 success rate.
There is nowhere near a 70% success rate of scoring with a man on 2nd with 1 out.
Statisically, it's a 50/50 type of proposition...and Mainieri decided to take his chances with Rhymes (in a very favorable count) rather than rely on 6-9 of the lineup.
It didn't work, but to pretend like he went against clearly defined odds is just ignorant.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:24 pm to Bernie Moore
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PM knows percentages favored the bunt especially with the slowest runner in lineup batting
No need to exaggerate. Rhymes is not slower than Ross and probably a toss up with Ibarra and maybe Katz.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Just curious, have you played baseball?
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How is a hit and run executed?
Are you telling me that the hit and run was not on? That is what the guy that I responded to said. He said "There was no hit and run on. RR tried to pull a pitch and didn't go the other way."
Is that how you define a hit and run?
Please say no.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:24 pm to Bernie Moore
Rhymes is slower than Ross and Ibarra?
It was a hit and run which keeps you out of the double play on a ground ball the vast majority of the time. The 3rd baseman had to rush the throw so much to get Katz, because he was moving on the pitch, the 2nd baseman barely even got to the bag in time.
It was a hit and run which keeps you out of the double play on a ground ball the vast majority of the time. The 3rd baseman had to rush the throw so much to get Katz, because he was moving on the pitch, the 2nd baseman barely even got to the bag in time.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:25 pm to dnm3305
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Which is exactly why I keep fricking saying he didnt execute the play properly. CPM calls for the hit and run and Rhymes pulls it. Who are you going to believe? If anything, the coach should have a vested interest to protect his players but he blatantly told the media the hit and run was on. Now why would he do that?
His players did not attempt to execute it. RR had a low outside pitch made to be slapped to right field.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:25 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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How would it have been an easy double if there had been no hit and run?
hmmm.. lets see. HAd there not been a hit and run called, Katz wouldn't have even been close to second as hard as that ball was hit. Im just saying for Katz to have been as close to second base as he was, its pretty damn obvious the hit and run was on. I was disagreeing with Bernie.. Get it now?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:25 pm to PurpleAndGold86
The hit and run was on and RR didn't execute or even try to hit the ball to the right side.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:25 pm to More beer please
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Either way Raph hit a ground ball for a DP like he always does, hit and run or not.
Yup, it's that cut and dry right?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:26 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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This isn't always true either.
In this case, it's 100% true.
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Some of you that think you know the game so well really don't.
Obviously better than you. The third baseman was on the line, and the pitch was to the outside of the plate. The positioning of the defenders, the location of the pitch dictates the ball should have gone behind the runner.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:26 pm to Bernie Moore
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His players did not attempt to execute it.
Wait. So there was no hit and run on because Rhymes pulled the baseball? If he had hit the ball to RF, you would label it a hit and run?
This is gold.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:26 pm to Bernie Moore
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RR had a low outside pitch made to be slapped to right field.
Ding..
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:27 pm to dnm3305
ummm yeah. Where were his other 2 ground outs that night?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:27 pm to Bernie Moore
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His players did not attempt to execute it. RR had a low outside pitch made to be slapped to right field.
Exactly, so what youre basically saying is CPM guessed right. He did get that fastball for a strike and he should have gotten the job done.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:27 pm to Charter n Coke
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Get it now?
You said double. You meant double play. Sorry, when we are discussing a hard hit ground ball down the third baseline it could easily be construed that you actually meant a double and not a double play.
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