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re: Coach Eaux building his team through players, coaches, support staff and now
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:09 pm to RB10
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:09 pm to RB10
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It's absolutely an excuse to blame a 30 point loss on the defensive line rotation, or to even claim that it was the primary factor.
I’m basically with you on O but this is unfair. It absolutely was a factor. People get too hung on the MSU game and the “historic” score imo, I write that off as shite happens (better not happen again, but shite happens). Troy OTOH is inexcusable injuries or not but we know the real cause was the HC getting in a pissing contest with the OC which is much much worse
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 2:11 pm
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:12 pm to Lester Earl
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I know you hate Tiger Ree but please for the love of god stop lumping everyone in with him.
It's easy to dislike ree with the way he takes something like the Canada hire last year, presents it to all of us as one of the biggest hires in college football, calls everyone that questions it idiots and haters, then a few months later, basically calls the guy a bum. And to top it off, refuse to blame the head coach for making such a horrendous hire. And that's just one example. But ree isn't the only one on the rant that does this kind of thing. There are other posters that do the same thing. Ree is just the more vocal one of the group.
And if you haven't noticed this Lester, you're choosing to ignore it.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:27 pm to Tiger Ree
You posted this shite after he lost a LB when he “allegedly” didn’t freaking know since MAY? You’re a moron.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:33 pm to Lester Earl
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. I rarely if ever compare him to Miles. and what do you know the first 4 responses to my post came in & started comparing the 2.
I don't think Les was mentioned in this thread until YOU did. You are surprised a coach you bring up gets discussed?
Most of your post in this thread indicate you are very simpleminded.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:38 pm to LSU Groupee
He can’t eleven answer very basic direct questions
Lester:
was last season a success?
what would you need to see happen for this season to be a success? a certain number of wins? a certain number of points per game scored? a certain number of points per game allowed? a certain number of yards gained by the offense?
Lester:
was last season a success?
what would you need to see happen for this season to be a success? a certain number of wins? a certain number of points per game scored? a certain number of points per game allowed? a certain number of yards gained by the offense?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:39 pm to Lester Earl
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I think you might confuse this with discussing why we lost ultimately it falls on the coach. But There are contributing factors that always lead to wins and losses.
I've not seen you to go any such lengths when we're discussing Arkansas or Ole Miss losses under Miles in years past.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:44 pm to Goldrush25
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I've not seen you to go any such lengths when we're discussing Arkansas or Ole Miss losses under Miles in years past.
I broke those games down at the time, but I honestly don’t remember the details of those games
I member the OM game with Jordan Jefferson when Miles didn’t know what was going on with the clock. That’s the only one that stands out.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:02 pm to TigerLunatik
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Plenty do identify me as one. I'm sure I am from time to time when discussing past mistakes. I try to be fair, but am pretty opinionated like everyone else.
why do you always classify yourself in the anti O group when you always take the position of the so called pro O group of which their is no such thing as a pro O group, but just the category of posters who want to wait and see how the season plays out and can also admit when good things happen to program and that everything isn't negative ?
I've seen you post quite a few times that you are pulling for LSU to have a good season and implying Coach O will have his chance to prove his self one way or the other by how the season plays out.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:03 pm to Lester Earl
Yea, because miles had this uncanny way of losing in hilariously awful fashion.
Tennessee 2005
Arkansas 2007
Arkansas 2008
Arkansas 2009
Ole miss 2009
Arkansas 2010
The game that shall not be mentioned
Clemson 2012
Ole Miss 2013
Ms st 2014
Auburn 2014
Arkansas 2014
Arkansas 2015 (man, the piggies really had his number, eh?)
But the real reason why the losses stand out is because they were so infrequent. It wasn’t until 2014-2015 when the losses seemed to be reaching the tipping point of fans losing their patience.
I would know because I was one of these fans.
Tennessee 2005
Arkansas 2007
Arkansas 2008
Arkansas 2009
Ole miss 2009
Arkansas 2010
The game that shall not be mentioned
Clemson 2012
Ole Miss 2013
Ms st 2014
Auburn 2014
Arkansas 2014
Arkansas 2015 (man, the piggies really had his number, eh?)
But the real reason why the losses stand out is because they were so infrequent. It wasn’t until 2014-2015 when the losses seemed to be reaching the tipping point of fans losing their patience.
I would know because I was one of these fans.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:13 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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We can all discuss Orgeron’s positives (“process” as you say) and identify them as such, but to suggest that others shouldn’t post expectations of good results from those positives as a response is asinine, especially since he has yet to produce such results.
as of right now all we have to go of is the process as the 2018 season hasn't played out yet. So far the process has looked good this offseason. We will see how the results work out when the season gets here starting with the Miami game which isn't far off. If the season goes to shite, as a lot of you are already convinced it will, you won't have to argue with people as to whether coach O needs to go or not.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:15 pm to Dave England
Dave, the chinks in Miles armor showed not only in losses, but in wins too. We can & will apply this same measure to Coach O.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:18 pm to boxcar willie
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the so called pro O group of which their is no such thing as a pro O group
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:18 pm to boxcar willie
quote:
as of right now all we have to go of is the process as the 2018 season hasn't played out yet.
I missed the part where O wasn’t the full time HC during the entire year of (and few months prior to) 2017.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:21 pm to Lester Earl
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Say we are going to suck all offseason then all of a sudden start saying 10 wins to cover your tracks? What ya got?
They don't actually believe we will win 10 games nor do they really want it to happen....because then we're stuck with O...which fuqs with their agendas. It's all sarcasm disguised as optimism. They really, really want to be able to say..."see we told you so."
#youcanfoolsomeofthepeoplesomeofthetime
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:22 pm to boxcar willie
quote:
of which their is no such thing as a pro O group.
You haven't been paying attention if you honestly believe this.Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:25 pm to boxcar willie
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as of right now all we have to go of is the process as the 2018 season hasn't played out yet.
So we skipped the 2017 season?
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:27 pm to RedTigerRulz
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They don't actually believe we will win 10 games
I don't believe we'll win 10 games this season. I'll be shocked if we win 9.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:29 pm to Lester Earl
yeah, miles won ugly, but you cant point to ugly wins like arizona state and then point to his firing in 2016 and say that you are validated after the man won a national title , played for another, won 3 division titles and 2 conference titles and dozens of other games. when 8-5 is your worst season over an 11 year span you had to be doing something right.
I do agree with respect to applying the same measure to O. I think the fact that O's 6 SEC wins came against 6 teams whose combined SEC conference play was 18-30 cannot be ignored.
I do agree with respect to applying the same measure to O. I think the fact that O's 6 SEC wins came against 6 teams whose combined SEC conference play was 18-30 cannot be ignored.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:30 pm to Lester Earl
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Dave, the chinks in Miles armor showed not only in losses, but in wins too. We can & will apply this same measure to Coach O.
Ah, but I've yet to hear you discuss any of the chinks in O's armor after wins, though I'm sure going forward you'll put up this front to maintain appearances.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:31 pm to RedTigerRulz
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They don't actually believe we will win 10 games
Well with the good things happening there’s no valid reason why they can’t.
quote:
nor do they really want it to happen
Even for those who don’t think it’ll happen, this stupidity is destroyed by the following analogy:
“I don’t think I will win the lottery. I want to win the lottery.”
What you’re saying is equal to saying “I don’t think I’ll win the lottery, therefore I don’t want to win the lottery.”
quote:
because then we're stuck with O...which fuqs with their agendas. It's all sarcasm disguised as optimism. They really, really want to be able to say..."see we told you so."
At least tell me you’re consistent since your view appears to be “If you’re a fan of LSU, then you’re a fan of the coach...”
Tell me you were equally supportive of Les Miles until he was fired.
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