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re: Coach Eaux building his team through players, coaches, support staff and now

Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51209 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:33 pm to
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Sorry but I just can’t be that simple minded.




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I rarely if ever compare him to Miles. and what do you know the first 4 responses to my post came in & started comparing the 2. Don’t put words in my mouth


I'm sorry that other posters can figure out what you're implying without asking you to explain it to us like we're simpletons.



ETA: It's also embarrassing that YOU brought Miles into this discussion and now you're butthurt that other posters tugged at that thread.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288774 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:48 pm to
Well, im here to explain anything that you may be confused about or don't understand. Better, more direct questions would help.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51209 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Better, more direct questions would help.


Please stop. I'm really starting to feel bad for you.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:53 pm to
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Better, more direct questions would help.


was last season a success?

what would you need to see happen for this season to be a success? a certain number of wins? a certain number of points per game scored? a certain number of points per game allowed? a certain number of yards gained by the offense?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:53 pm to
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Well, im here to explain anything that you may be confused about or don't understand. Better, more direct questions would help.


Yeesh
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33914 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Who has looked past those losses?


If were talking excusing it or blaming it on forces outside of his control, a lot of people have looked past it.

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I “belittle” people who can’t distinguish good or bad. As in everything coach O does is bad


Who says everything O does is bad?
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288774 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:08 pm to
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If were talking excusing it or blaming it on forces outside of his control, a lot of people have looked past it.




I think you might confuse this with discussing why we lost


ultimately it falls on the coach. But There are contributing factors that always lead to wins and losses.


For instance against MSU, our DL rotation was down to the bones.


TBH, im looking for people to acknowledge that is a huge deal, and not call it an "excuse". And in the same breath, still dislike Coach O.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104797 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:29 pm to
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For instance against MSU, our DL rotation was down to the bones. 

Mullen had such a good game plan that I honestly don't think it would have mattered what DL players we had out there. Aranda got badly outcoached in that game IMO.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51209 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:32 pm to
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I think you might confuse this with discussing why we lost

ultimately it falls on the coach. But There are contributing factors that always lead to wins and losses.


You take the exact opposite stance when discussing Les Miles. Can you explain why that is?

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For instance against MSU, our DL rotation was down to the bones.

TBH, im looking for people to acknowledge that is a huge deal, and not call it an "excuse". And in the same breath, still dislike Coach O.


It's absolutely an excuse to blame a 30 point loss on the defensive line rotation, or to even claim that it was the primary factor.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:35 pm to
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when discussing Les Miles.


all people should discuss about him is his pathetic failure to adapt, his inability to tell the truth, and being a horrible family man.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51209 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:36 pm to
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all people should discuss about him is his pathetic failure to adapt, his inability to tell the truth, and being a horrible family man.


You're right. LSU fans shouldn't discuss the coach that helped usher in the most successful era in the programs history.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:37 pm to
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all people should discuss about him is his pathetic failure to adapt, his inability to tell the truth, and being a horrible family man.


Wow, you’ve sure changed your opinion of Orgeron. Glad you finally see him for what he is.

This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104797 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:37 pm to
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all people should discuss about him is his pathetic failure to adapt, his inability to tell the truth, and being a horrible family man.

One of the more ridiculous things ever posted on tRant.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:37 pm to
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all people should discuss about him is his pathetic failure to adapt, his inability to tell the truth, and being a horrible family man.


I know that a common retort on here and other places on the internet is something to the effect of "what, did ____ bang your wife or something?" I'm starting to think Les actually did bone your wife. Sad!
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:41 pm to
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ultimately it falls on the head coach. But There are contributing factors that always lead to wins and losses.


At the end of the day, wins and losses should fall on the head coach. They always did under past coaches. But now, there's a large group of posters that will make every excuse known to man to take the blame off the current head coach and place it at someone else's feet.

Just like you mentioning the defensive line rotation being down against Mississippi State. That certainly hurt us that game. But there are some on here that were dead set on blaming the defensive line issues on the previous coaching staff. Like Miles and company were to blame for suspensions and injuries that occured damn near a year after being dismissed.

The offensive line issues were the same way. Some people went on and on about the lack of depth and blamed the previous staff for the problem. But it wasn't Miles fault that somewhere around 10 linemen left the program after o was named the head coach.

The way I see it, everything that happens to a team, be it good or bad, should ultimately be placed at the feet of the head coach. But these days, only the good things are placed on the head coach, while all the bad things get divvied out among other past coaches, current coaches and players.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288774 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:47 pm to
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Mullen had such a good game plan that I honestly don't think it would have mattered what DL players we had out there. Aranda got badly outcoached in that game IMO.




I dont really feel like discussing the game again. I dont think our DL was the primary factor, just one of the contributing factors. They dominated time of possession, our DEF was on the field a lot. As you can see this contributed heavily to what happened in the 2nd half. It didn't help that our OFF couldnt convert 3rd down & we had like 12 penalties

Posted by vjm41
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2008
910 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:50 pm to
AGREE Eaux, Aranda & coaches, the supporting staff, have been doing a fantastic job filling holes, getting players motivated. They seem to be in the best shape in years, players dropping weight ect. Seems like we are building this team through players pushing players, coaches, support staff have all been doing their share. GOOD POST
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288774 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:52 pm to
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But now, there's a large group of posters that will make every excuse known to man to take the blame off the current head coach and place it at someone else's feet.



That's great. You keep saying this shite, earl. I know you hate Tiger Ree but please for the love of god stop lumping everyone in with him. You are bette than this
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60871 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:56 pm to
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That poster would get basically universal upvotes if the Ree account was ditched and the stuff was posted under something like "Lsu Football Grad Assistant 2018"


Or “Ex-Tug Boat Cap’n”
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:01 pm to
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all people should discuss about him is his pathetic failure to adapt, his inability to tell the truth, and being a horrible family man.


You sure are butthurt over Miles and the things he accomplished at LSU. But I'm sure you're happy as a clam about o's past sins.

And I'd bet a dollar to a donut that if it were any other person, you'd be one of the first to say that you didn't give a rat's arse about what kind of family man he was, as long as he was winning.
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