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re: Coach 0 should NOT get an extension
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:17 am to karlkadabra
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:17 am to karlkadabra
No, he shouldn't get an extension.
Why?
he's in the middle of his second season of a 5 year contract.
Extension contracts should not be on the table until after year 3 or middle of year 4.
YAW YAW isnt going anywhere and he can enjoy his 3.5mm per year for 2/3 more years.
LSU is still paying the previous staff bc of ridiculous extensions and buyouts. They were also fired for dreadful offense production, losing to Alabama and 9-3 seasons.
Why?
he's in the middle of his second season of a 5 year contract.
Extension contracts should not be on the table until after year 3 or middle of year 4.
YAW YAW isnt going anywhere and he can enjoy his 3.5mm per year for 2/3 more years.
LSU is still paying the previous staff bc of ridiculous extensions and buyouts. They were also fired for dreadful offense production, losing to Alabama and 9-3 seasons.
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:23 am to Ace Midnight
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What do you tell the next guy? "Win 11 games or you're fricking fired!"
I tell him here's a 5 year contract with a ridiculous buyout, unless you win SEC or make playoffs, don't bring your contract extension BS in the middle of year 2 of 5.
Can you tell me what the importance of giving O an extension this year???? I really want to know! The man hasn't finished year 2 of a 5 year contract and now it has to be done or "what do you tell the next guy" shite.
CEO was hired and given a contract that was WAY ABOVE his market value.
He needs to finish this year strong, 10-2 and bowl victory. Then duplicate in year 3. Then and only then should and extension be on the table.
IF...IF Joe caves and gives an extension in year 2 of 5, it better not change his buyout. 2 year extension, maybe increase his pay, but absolutely no change to his current buyout!
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 9:01 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Less worried about the years on the deal than I am the buyout, just make it feasible to get out of after 2020 if needed and I’m good
Exactly. Many people don't seem to understand that you can give an extension without guaranteed money involved. The melt about this is premature.
I'm saving my anger for if (when) Alleva does something stupid.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:25 am to shawnlsu
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It's almost like people don't remember the 90s at all.
how do you expect them to remember the 90’s when they can’t even remember 2015?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:26 am to El Magnifico
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If O were to be a lame duck going into next year the negative recruiting would kill us. Think people, an extension does not mean larger buyout or that we can't fire him anyway.
He wouldn’t be a lame duck, he has three more seasons after this one. And yes, the buyout will increase since they’re tied to the number of years on the contract. Maybe the yearly rate won’t increase, but the aggregate will increase with any additional years added.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:29 am to karlkadabra
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Coach 0 should NOT get an extension
I don't know the details of CEO's contract but Joe better not put LSU (Athletic Department) on the hook for some bull shite contract extension. I say this and I lean towards sticking with Coach O. I believe the program is moving in the right direction. Maybe not as quick as I would like but moving in the right direction nonetheless.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:29 am to karlkadabra
ed orgeron is the best coach we have had before saban and after saban. Stop with all this anti coaching bull shite. There are 125 other programs envious of our program. This shite is ridiculous
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:33 am to MOT
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And yes, the buyout will increase since they’re tied to the number of years on the contract. Maybe the yearly rate won’t increase, but the aggregate will increase with any additional years added.
This is not true. Extensions can be added option years, which guarantee nothing. All it does is give LSU the option to retain Orgeron for an agreed upon salary. Orgeron still has very little leverage, so an option year should be on the table.
I'm not saying this is what's happening, but my fingers are crossed that Alleva isn't going to frick this up
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:36 am to Tiger on the Rag
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ed orgeron is the best coach we have had before saban and after saban
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:36 am to RB10
Right, there’s going to have to be a buyout but an 8 million buyout after 2020 and a 17 million buyout after 2020 are two totally different things
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:39 am to karlkadabra
Alleva is gonna retire soon and stick to us with this totally uncalled for extension!
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:41 am to geauxdroddz
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Because Lsu is ran by morons is my guess
Speaking of morons..........it's "is run".
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:43 am to RB10
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Extensions can be added option years, which guarantee nothing
correct.
I'm still against any extension, mainly bc its year fn 2 of 5. Should not be discussed until after year 3.
quote:
Orgeron still has very little leverage
If extension is on the table then there should be no change to current buyout or done after year 4. CEO has a contract way above his market value, so he has no leverage!
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 8:45 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:46 am to karlkadabra
The same people are in charge who decided we needed to offer Coach O a $10 million buyout to entice him to be the head coach at LSU when no other power 5 school in the country would have offered him their head coaching job. Sadly, I don’t put anything pass These guys.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:50 am to KingMo
Who the frick goes around giving coaches extensions 2 years into their 5 year contract? WTF is the point of a contract?
Its different if you are trying to keep other schools from comjng after him but nobody that can afford him wants him period.
Why is this Allevas big thing to throw out contracts with no abandon. That is why we are paying out so damn much money in buyouts. Its irresponsible and reckless.
Its different if you are trying to keep other schools from comjng after him but nobody that can afford him wants him period.
Why is this Allevas big thing to throw out contracts with no abandon. That is why we are paying out so damn much money in buyouts. Its irresponsible and reckless.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:50 am to RB10
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Extensions can be added option years, which guarantee nothing. All it does is give LSU the option to retain Orgeron for an agreed upon salary.
I see what you’re getting at here but I don’t believe you’re thinking it through. Presumably Orgeron is pushing for this extension but he gains nothing in your scenario. LSU wouldn’t be contractually bound to anything, or owe him anything, beyond the 5th year of his current contract unless it’s at their discretion.
Unless you’re saying this is a move by LSU to make sure they don’t lose him to someone else.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:52 am to karlkadabra
Alleva was giving him an extension if he went 7 - 5 so book another year ++ to O and probably raking out another million ++
Get used to couple losses per year. It is what it is.
Get used to couple losses per year. It is what it is.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:54 am to karlkadabra
I was never for O getting the job. With that being said, he has actually surprised me this season. At this point I am ok with keeping him with one stipulation: Bring in a Offensive Coordinatorthatshares the same offensive philosophy as O wants. Steve did a good jobbin trying to give O that type of offense but you cant just design and coordinate an offense that isnt your forte. We need someone who can implement RPOs, Spread concepts, etc and most importantly, someone who can coach QBs or mold an offense around a QBs strengths. If LSU truly is dedicated to winning, they need to make this happen.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:06 am to releauxded2469
Coach O deserves an extension and more pay. We have had a great season thus far with no O line and no break away running back. Give the man credit and pay him. No big name coach wants to come to Lsu and face Alabama every year. We have our man.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:08 am to El Magnifico
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The reason he would get an extension is for recruiting purposes. If O were to be a lame duck going into next year the negative recruiting would kill us. Think people, an extension does not mean larger buyout or that we can't fire him anyway.
Les Miles was all but fired in 2015 and he finished with the #2 class.
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