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re: Clyde Edwards Helaire thoughts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:42 pm to tigerdup07
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:42 pm to tigerdup07
Price-Davis will make people forget the names Hilliard, Faulk and Fournette. Second coming of Cecil Collins
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:43 pm to L S Usetheforce
He won’t get 1,000 yards this year.
He’s a complimentary back not a starter imo
He’s a complimentary back not a starter imo
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:52 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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3rd & 17 doesn't happen without his block.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:01 pm to LSU82BILL
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it. We didn’t win anything with Fournette and Guice and a run first offense that either wasted or didn’t require the talent of 4 offensive players (QB, TE and 2 WR) on most plays.
What does this have to do with my post? No where did I mention I want a run first offense.
Just want the best players to play. LF and Guice would kill in this offense
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:02 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Price-Davis will make people forget the names Hilliard, Faulk and Fournette. Second coming of Cecil Collins
Now THIS is a bold statement..............
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:04 pm to BleedgurpleTX
Thanks god we have a passing game cause we ain’t got no running game
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:07 pm to dukke v
He’s a home run hitter PJ. Quickly plowing into the opposing team’s secondary
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:20 pm to Lester Earl
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Just want the best players to play. LF and Guice would kill in this offense
LOL.....No RB is going to kill it in this offense. Fournette thrived in a power offense that utilized a fullback and a tight end. He might have done well in this offense but he thrived in the offense he did because it was schemed and executed around his abilities as a ball carrier. That’s not what this offense does.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:35 pm to LSU82BILL
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LOL.....No RB is going to kill it in this offense. Fournette thrived in a power offense that utilized a fullback and a tight end. He might have done well in this offense but he thrived in the offense he did because it was schemed and executed around his abilities as a ball carrier. That’s not what this offense does.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:41 pm to Mohican
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It doesn’t matter who you have back there if there are very few holes to run through. That’s the point. We need to change our expectations of what our running game is in this offense. It has more to do with what we’re asking the offensive line to do than who’s at running back. For this offense, you better have a sure thing as a pass-blocker, and someone who can make rushers miss in the backfield. I do hope the other young guys will develop as the year progresses, but CEH is sufficient considering the lack of holes opening up thus far.
If you are going to play this offense and know you have limitations with the offensive line, then the obvious imperative is to develop a back with burst as fast as possible and get him the bulk of the carries. Such a back puts less of a strain on the O Line to hold blocks longer. I can’t understand how this isn’t obvious to some of you.
In his limited time vs Texas, I watched Price-Davis make a textbook blitz pickup. Yes, he has to prove he can do it consistently, but he and Emery can’t if they barely see the field. These guys won’t develop without PT that actually matters. Hopefully they get more action while the game is still in doubt vs Vandy.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:44 pm to L S Usetheforce
Solid, elusive, good vision but no breakaway speed. Very reliable and best rb blocker we have so far. Poor man's Dalton Hilliard from back in the day..and that ain't a bad thing by no means. Vastly underappreciated by certain keyboard warriors who know everything in their own pea brains.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:49 pm to Topwater Trout
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Our running game hasn’t been great but I think it has more to do with blocking.
It’s becasue the running game isn’t priority in this offense
Outside of CEH missing a couple of blocks when they brought the house, I think he was VERY EFFICIENT in what it looks like they want to do in this offense.
I don’t think the offense needs the RB to make big plays. This offense relies on the QB and WR to make their big plays for them.
CEH is the perfect compliment at the moment. I think he’s played very well for what they’ve asked him to do.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:52 pm to LSU82BILL
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LOL.....No RB is going to kill it in this offense. Fournette thrived in a power offense that utilized a fullback and a tight end. He might have done well in this offense but he thrived in the offense he did because it was schemed and executed around his abilities as a ball carrier. That’s not what this offense does.
So we should stick with the guy who’s biggest weakness is magnified by this new scheme and back him up with a journeyman? Ok.
Think about it this way. Maybe the staff has had to abandon balance because we are playing the majority of the game with two backs who can’t provide effective balance in this scheme. Go back and watch the first half vs Texas. They tried to be more balanced. They couldn’t do it. The O Line has something to do with that, but so do the guys in the backfield.
Bottom line- teams that pass 70% of the time don’t win championships. They just don’t. But that is what we will be asking Burrow to do in SEC play if CEH and Fournette are getting 50% or more of the carries. If LSU can’t be effective moving the ball getting that ratio closer to 40/60, then they will lose games because of it.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:07 pm to L S Usetheforce
He will never be Guice or Fournette but he gives you everything he has. He is a great teammate, hard worker and example for guy younger players.
I can easily see him being the 18 next year.
I can easily see him being the 18 next year.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:38 pm to L S Usetheforce
We need a back that can’t be arm tackled.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:43 pm to L S Usetheforce
He's a good back, but he's better when he's not getting 20 touches a game. 12 is probably perfect for him.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:50 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted in the game thread last night that his running style isn't gonna be particularly fruitful in SEC play. He's not fast, he doesn't hit the hole quickly, gets happy feet dancing around behind blockers and when he's moving laterally, like many times last night he stretches the run all the way to the sideline before turning upfield.
Those are bad tendencies that can be overcome with a talent differential vs Northwestern State but he does that against Florida or Alabama, they're gonna be dropping him for no gain or losses.
Those are bad tendencies that can be overcome with a talent differential vs Northwestern State but he does that against Florida or Alabama, they're gonna be dropping him for no gain or losses.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:56 pm to misey94
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So we should stick with the guy who’s biggest weakness is magnified by this new scheme and back him up with a journeyman? Ok.
I think the point that most of us pro-CEH people are trying to articulate is that while the freshmen might be more productive in a downhill running/blocking scheme, they aren’t as effective RIGHT NOW in our current scheme as CEH is, and that CEH actually is pretty damn good at it. His running style is as a cut-back, not downhill, and he’s the best in pass-protection.
The other RBs might be better running backs in the traditional sense, but AS OF RIGHT NOW they aren’t as effective in our current scheme as is CEH.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 3:00 pm to Mohican
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they aren’t as effective RIGHT NOW in our current scheme as CEH is, and that CEH actually is pretty damn good at it. H
LSU is completing 80% of the passes they throw! This scheme is for any back. Why do you people think CEH is specially built for this system? That is so damn stupid lol
Posted on 9/15/19 at 3:06 pm to L S Usetheforce
These are facts.
#1. Nobody commenting has any idea what happens at practice/which players have trouble with certain situations/playbook.
#2. The coaching staff (who is at practice) believes that ceh is the best for the job/doesn’t feel comfortable with the freshman when game is on the line.
#3. The idea that this team will not be successful if the freshmen do not get more involved is pure fiction. There is absolutely no evidence to support this.
#4. This is the most prolific 3 game LSU offensive output in history.
#1. Nobody commenting has any idea what happens at practice/which players have trouble with certain situations/playbook.
#2. The coaching staff (who is at practice) believes that ceh is the best for the job/doesn’t feel comfortable with the freshman when game is on the line.
#3. The idea that this team will not be successful if the freshmen do not get more involved is pure fiction. There is absolutely no evidence to support this.
#4. This is the most prolific 3 game LSU offensive output in history.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 3:14 pm
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