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re: Clyde Edwards Helaire thoughts
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:32 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:32 am to Lester Earl
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He is fine, but if LSU is to win anything, one or both of the freshmen will have to step up and split carries with him. Bottom line.
No. This is you staring at recruiting rankings and forming your opinion based on that. Bottom line.
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:32 am to Strannix
Did Curry get one snap? I didn't see him. what's with this.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:33 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Run blocking has been poor for sure. The majority of carries the RB’s (whoever they are) are having to do it without much for running lanes. Many times the RB is having to make 1-2 guys miss before reaching the line of scrimmage.
The pass blocking, however, has been better than expected. Some of that is the new offense, but some is player improvement.
Bottom line is there are tougher challenges ahead, and if UF, AU, A&M, or Bama can stop the run with 5-6 in the box then Burrow will truly have to be a magician.
The pass blocking, however, has been better than expected. Some of that is the new offense, but some is player improvement.
Bottom line is there are tougher challenges ahead, and if UF, AU, A&M, or Bama can stop the run with 5-6 in the box then Burrow will truly have to be a magician.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:35 am to L S Usetheforce
The real issue, yet again under Ed, is the offensive line.
When does Cregg get held accountable? Performance and recruiting are not to the LSU standard.
When does Cregg get held accountable? Performance and recruiting are not to the LSU standard.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:36 am to bayou85
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his spin move is sick tho.
3rd and 2 vs Texas he was dead to rights on the left end and made the guy whiff...huge 1st down also
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:37 am to CaptainKirk80
quote:I'm reading this thread, but let's not do that.
Watch old Barry sanders highlights. His Touchdown last night gave me flashbacks.
Barry tGOAT. A moment in time, maybe, if that's what you're saying. Maybe.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:37 am to Lord Orgeron
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No. This is you staring at recruiting rankings and forming your opinion based on that. Bottom line.
care to rank LSU's RB for me?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:38 am to Lord Orgeron
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This is you staring at recruiting rankings
did you watch the game last night? did you not see the difference in burst, strength, and speed?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:39 am to CP3forMVP
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Burrow checked down to Clyde, and because the WR’s cleared out when Clyde turned to go upfield there wasn’t anyone within 10 yards of him.
And I know with 10 yards in front of him he didn't get more than 15 yards (15 yds is his long for the season).
The kid is reliable and safe. He's going to do his job and will maybe burn a defense when they forget about him because he's not a big threat to reel off chunks of yards. I'm just disappointed that we don't have a true game breaker at RB that can block to make this offense UNSTOPPABLE for defenses like Bama, UF, Auburn and UGA!
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
Word salad.
You have not yet comprehended the role of the RB in this offense. You are fixated on the role of the RB in offenses of the past.
You will likely never figure it out, IMO.
Have a great day!
You have not yet comprehended the role of the RB in this offense. You are fixated on the role of the RB in offenses of the past.
You will likely never figure it out, IMO.
Have a great day!
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:40 am to SoloTiger
quote:I actually think the run blocking being "poor" is because of scheme. We're trying to be a pass first team. Includes RPO and PA.
Run blocking has been poor for sure. The majority of carries the RB’s (whoever they are) are having to do it without much for running lanes. Many times the RB is having to make 1-2 guys miss before reaching the line of scrimmage.
The pass blocking, however, has been better than expected. Some of that is the new offense, but some is player improvement.
Bottom line is there are tougher challenges ahead, and if UF, AU, A&M, or Bama can stop the run with 5-6 in the box then Burrow will truly have to be a magician.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:41 am to L S Usetheforce
I have no issue with him being the starter. They are just going to have to start rotating more. CEH does have some great moves and skills. Unfortunately, he isn’t playing out of the shotgun behind a bad arse O Line. He needs to play, but so do the young guys.
Like Brosette last year, CEH isn’t gong to hit more than a small handful of big plays this year. Last year, there wasn’t anyone behind Brosette who could. Now we have two guys who have legitimately shown they can. The staff has to figure out how to get these two on the field. Period. If they both sit for 99% of the UF game, like the Texas game, then that is a coaching mistake.
Next week should tell us a lot about how the staff is going to treat the other backs. If Fournette, who I respect a ton for working his arse off and staying on this team, is still getting carries over them next week, then I just don’t know. What I do know is that not getting your most talented guys involved will get you beat. Eventually, the lackluster running game, and it HAS been lackluster so far, will cost the Tigers at least one game. Maybe more.
Like Brosette last year, CEH isn’t gong to hit more than a small handful of big plays this year. Last year, there wasn’t anyone behind Brosette who could. Now we have two guys who have legitimately shown they can. The staff has to figure out how to get these two on the field. Period. If they both sit for 99% of the UF game, like the Texas game, then that is a coaching mistake.
Next week should tell us a lot about how the staff is going to treat the other backs. If Fournette, who I respect a ton for working his arse off and staying on this team, is still getting carries over them next week, then I just don’t know. What I do know is that not getting your most talented guys involved will get you beat. Eventually, the lackluster running game, and it HAS been lackluster so far, will cost the Tigers at least one game. Maybe more.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:44 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You have not yet comprehended the role of the RB in this offense.
this is incorrect
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You are fixated on the role of the RB in offenses of the past.
this is also incorrect
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You will likely never figure it out, IMO.
yes the guy who has been on here for over a decade talking about modernizing our offense is clueless and fixated on Miles ball
the coaches are leaning on CEH b/c he's an upperclassman and they want to pretend like our offense needs to be perfectly versatile in our rent a wins. CEH isn't bad but he's just a guy. he has a role in this offense and it's not as the primary ballcarrier. good teams will own him
you saw it last week. UT owned him on that flat route we kept using him for (taken from the saints). he also missed on a bunch of blocks (he didn't miss on all of them and made some crucial ones).
when we get into the SEC schedule he's not going to be able to be "the guy" at RB. if we're still relying on him then we aren't winning the West/SEC
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:44 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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he catches well out of the backfield & excellent (and fearless) pass protection. 3rd & 17 doesn't happen without his block.
Did you miss the 3rd and 1 drop to start the third quarter? A score on that drive breaks Texas’ back early.
Did you miss the at least three whiffs in pass pro?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:48 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
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Did you miss the 3rd and 1 drop to start the third quarter? A score on that drive breaks Texas’ back early.
Did you miss the at least three whiffs in pass pro?
let me add some context. saying things like this does't mean people are saying CEH is bad
he's just not this god of receiving/blocking like he's being made out to be
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:54 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You have not yet comprehended the role of the RB in this offense. You are fixated on the role of the RB in offenses of the past.
Spot on.
This has more to do with our scheme and asking our offensive line to switch from pass blocking for 8 plays in a row to suddenly be downhill road graders. It’s just not how it works.
You better have somebody shifty back there who can make pass rushers miss in the backfield. CEH is built perfectly for that.
Bottom line, it’s scheme.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:55 am to L S Usetheforce
If he had a burst he would be a complete back
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:56 am to Lord Orgeron
We still have no offense line! 
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:58 am to Mohican
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This has more to do with our scheme and asking our offensive line to switch from pass blocking for 8 plays in a row to suddenly be downhill road graders. It’s just not how it works.
that's crazy because Alabama has been doing that for 4-5 years now
the R in RPO is run. if we keep showing we can't run, the RPO becomes exploitable
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:59 am to L S Usetheforce
Clyde is the starting back, but we need 2 more guys to step up and share the load. We need to trust these guys. Right now it appears Davis Price is one of them. I do think lanard has had some bad luck with the lateral pay to him. Did not work last week or last night. However I do think he is a worthy back and you can trust to hold on to the ball.
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