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re: Close-ups of Jefferson show the confusion (not his)

Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:28 am to
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:28 am to
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I've never been a huge fan of QBs looking over to the sideline to get a new play. Whatever happened to a QB having a good grasp of the offense and being able to call the correct audible at the line by himself? All this tells me is the OC or HC is not comfortable enough with the QB to make those decisions.

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And the Huddle will get everyone on the same page.
JJ will never make it to or in the NFL, if he can't read the D himself and audible. What they are doing is not QB development. I keep banging my head on this but; it is about time to make the opposing D react to what our O is doing
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:30 am to
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Wasnt this a problem with our defense last season? A big clusterfrick, and noone knows what the hell is going on and plays taking too long to get called.



Yep, and I wonder what changed. We still have the same OC. Makes me wonder if Miles switched his attenetion from defense to offense. I heard rumors that was happening prior to the season.
Posted by leeh
Sinton, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
358 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:38 am to
Does any of this stuff we are doing or trying to do remind you of TT and Auburn last year?
Posted by leeh
Sinton, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
358 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:38 am to
Does any of this stuff we are doing or trying to do remind you of TT and Auburn last year?
Posted by SlyCorley98
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2007
134 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:40 am to
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Yep, and I wonder what changed. We still have the same OC. Makes me wonder if Miles switched his attenetion from defense to offense. I heard rumors that was happening prior to the season.


Man, I hope thats not it but, Miles is the common denominator between the two. I just hope something gets done now instead of letting it go until the offseason and wasting another season.
This post was edited on 10/15/09 at 9:41 am
Posted by BB85
New Olreans
Member since Sep 2009
24 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:49 am to
I don't have that much an issue with the looking to the sidelines after you see what the defense is lined up in. The problem is it needs to be used effectively. It's not a necessity for every down of every drive. I think we need to find a solid balance between the no huddle and just lining up and making plays.
Posted by ellis1975
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:25 am to
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Honestly, who believes that a DC will be out-coached by this? He simply prepares by showing his base defense and then having his guys rotate right before the snap. The play clock is a big factor in negating the advantage of this meerkat offense. All defenses know that we will look to the sideline to signal in the play, therefore they simply do not show their true defensive alignment until AFTER the play has been signaled in. The only true benefit of this is when an offense catches a defense that it is tired, it allows them to gash them because it alleviates substitutions if used correctly. It also allows the offense to take advantage of personnel mis-matches. It does not seem to benefit LSU and just looks retarded when we have to call a timeout or our players look frustrated. Your offensive players looking confused before running a play is NEVER a good thing.


Posted by PistolaVeloce
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2009
428 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:40 am to
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I know it's been expressed that everyone disapproves of the no huddle we run. For good reason, main complaint I see is because it disrupts the flow of a game. The huddle also serves other functions that anyone who has ever been in one knows.
1. It allows a QB to settle down between plays, get the play, tell it to his team and answer any questions.
2. It allows everyone in the huddle to briefly share information on what the defenders are doing. I think this is a vital part, IMO. A lot of adjustments could be made by players...
3. It allows you a break from thinking, always looking to the sideline wondering what we are doing standing in your stance for 30 seconds can be unbearable as a big guy.
4.The defense doesn't have 35 seconds to look at your formation and deduce what you may do. For all you arm chair QBs think about pressing pause to be able to scan the field...



I'll also add 5. It allows the QB to look at and read the defense for more than 4 fricking seconds.
Posted by Rekamyah
Ovadalevee
Member since Jun 2008
1866 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:37 am to
I seemed to see a lot of this from JJ Saturday night. Also in Georgia game.
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2495 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:41 am to
I'm not reading all of the posts but it does piss me off. Either we need to run a true no huddle or we need to line up, check the defense and either let JJ make a read on the defense and/or let JJ call audibles to the slot or HB. That way he has someone to dump it off.

I know this won't happen but it's a thought.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:45 am to
I have no problem with them looking to the side line or taking as long as they want. Just call good plays with all the time you take.
Posted by Scottie
Elton, La
Member since Aug 2009
41 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:33 pm to
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I agree. I can't believe Miles thinks this shite is ever gonna work. I mean seriously it looks like the coaches have never coached and the players never played. I would like to see this shite done away with and a new system implementd even at the expense of getting temporarily worse. I hate to think of LSU running this crap for the rest of the year.
It is obvious that the coach's don't trust Jefferson to look at a defense and be smart enough to run plays that will work against that defense. This is obviously a lack of [b]"quarterback smarts" that Jefferson does not have and that we need from a QB to be successful.
Posted by lyndell18
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2004
103 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:46 pm to
The looking to the sideline is frustrating. Point blank. It hasn't worked after 6 games. Go back to the huddle. A frustrated player can not and will not execute.
Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:09 pm to
Last year "THEY" were taking too long to get the defensive signals in which resulted in too much thinking too quickly and too much confusion. Now, "THEY" are doing the same thing this year on offense. "THEY" need to get their shite together or "THEY" need to step aside and let somebody else fix this mess......
Posted by GeauxCrusin
Bartlett, TN
Member since Oct 2007
35 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:09 pm to
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They need to make that looking to the side shite illegal. I hate when teams do this crap and I also hate it when LSU does it, because as mentioned it's just a big clusterfrick.


Agreed!! 100%
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:19 pm to
This thread is one of the few "value added" threads I have seen in the last couple days. Good thread, keep it up.

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Last year "THEY" were taking too long to get the defensive signals in which resulted in too much thinking too quickly and too much confusion. Now, "THEY" are doing the same thing this year on offense. "THEY" need to get their shite together or "THEY" need to step aside and let somebody else fix this mess......


TBA82, I hope you are wrong, but fear you are correct. I also hope he knows this, if true. Well stated.
Posted by Sleven
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
1061 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:30 pm to
If your going to run the no huddle but everyone is looking to the side lines for a play call, you might as well just have a fricking huddle
Posted by JMM
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
35 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 4:17 pm to
If you were at the game, you also saw that the one corner, covering our two receivers, missed his assignment and was blitzing on the play. So, we have two receivers and no one covering either one of them. The problem is that even if we do not jump offsides, Jefferson was going to throw to Lafell on an in route. The problem is the saftey in the middle of the field would have tackled him. Our QB did not even look to the outside receiver who could have caught the ball and walked for 30 yards. On the bright side, we didn't throw an interception on the play.
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