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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line

Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:55 pm to
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How did they not get shut out this year?



answer my question on how bama shut down clemson LAST year...did clemson change schemes? coaches? what happened?
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Nooo.. our carpet installers and security guards here at TD know so much more than a guy who actually played at a high level


247 also has an article mentioning bamas lack of a pass rush. It was non existent.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:56 pm to
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please explain how clemson only scored 6 pts and had less than 200 yards vs bama last year


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm not comparing LSU'S offense to Clemsons. Don't try to change the narrative. Rick and now you are claiming that Trevor was hurried all game which isn't true. Trevor could've held the ball for much longer had he needed to.


Ben, Clemson's offense vs ours is the point of the entire thread. A similarly talented line (by recruiting rankings) was made to look spectacular because of Clemson's scheme. They got the ball out quick because you CANNOT line up under center and go toe to toe with Alabama's defense.

We're one of the few teams that still try to do it, and when it fails, you guys blame the OL instead of the entire damn scheme.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:57 pm to
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They got the ball out quick because you CANNOT line up under center and go toe to toe with Alabama's defense.


I saw plenty of drop backs and throwing downfield
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:58 pm to
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you guys blame the OL instead of the entire damn scheme.


24-6 last year...seems like Clemson's offense is really good when they have Heisman type qb's and average when they don't
Posted by mule74
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:58 pm to
I think stars matter less with OL than any other position in high school. It's very difficult to evaluate those kids and to tell who will grow into their body.

So I put the blame on evaluation as much as development.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:58 pm to
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you guys blame the OL instead of the entire damn scheme.


Clemson didn't have to max protect either
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:58 pm to
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You can’t even present facts that dispute their talent levels being equal.



I watched every game LSU played twice. I saw the 9 different starters they had to run out there.

Besides it’s your claim not mine. Prove it or stfu
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:59 pm to
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How many sacks again? 


You can get pressure without sacks. Its happened to peyton manning and brady all the time . Do you follow football?


Bama sacked citadel once. Their oline must be better than ours.

The fact that youre saying lawrence was never pressured lets everyone know youre full of shite or dont know what youre seeing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298435 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:59 pm to
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24-6 last year...seems like Clemson's offense is really good when they have Heisman type qb's and average when they don't


Yep.

Amazing what a little talent difference at an important position can make
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:59 pm to
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bullshite you dont kmow what yoire seeing.
Tfl ,hurries is pressure. Deal with it


And as usual you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70488 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:59 pm to
Roger and Ben

LINK
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:00 pm to
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please explain how clemson only scored 6 pts and had less than 200 yards vs bama last year


How did bama score less this year?

Did Bama become less talented on offense?

Think its about fixing your scheme, adjusting your playcalling...you know, everything that coaches are in control of?
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:00 pm to
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saw plenty of drop backs and throwing downfield


You saw Lawrence under center plenty? Sprinkling it in is far different than running it as your base offense. It's like we can't throw without PA. It's asinine when you've got a line that's relatively undermanned.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Clemson didn't have to max protect either





Neither did lsu. If you knew football youd know that max protect is horrible for a struggling line. But you dont so you think its a good thing to bring more defenders to the line instesd of spreading the fiekd and making the defense cover sideline to sideline.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:02 pm to
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You saw Lawrence under center plenty? Sprinkling it in is far different than running it as your base offense. It's like we can't throw without PA. It's asinine when you've got a line that's relatively undermanned.





Did you not see Lawrence at clemsons own 4 yardline under center and then run a playaction when no one respects their run game?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Amazing what a little talent difference at an important position can make




Looks like players can improve from one season to the next...who fricking knew

I'm just curious why all the posters saying scheme is why Clemson scores on bama won't answer if Clemson changed their scheme this year after getting shut down last year
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:03 pm to
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I watched every game LSU played twice. I saw the 9 different starters they had to run out there.


You think that makes you right?

quote:

Besides it’s your claim not mine. Prove it or stfu


I did. We have similar talent based on the only objective measurement presented. It’s not my opinion.

Do you have any arguments other than your gut feelings based on watching every LSU game twice?
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298435 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:04 pm to
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How did bama score less this year?


Turnovers
Dumbass fake FG
Inability to convert on 4th down deep in Clemsons territory
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