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re: Chizik’s hatred of O and LSU...
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:00 am to Mayhawman
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:00 am to Mayhawman
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Chizik's got skins, what's your Zero Hero got?
Chizik has A skin courtesy of Cam Newton and Nick Fairley.
Otherwise he was a disaster. Auburn would have been awful in 2010 without Cam.
Orgeron was a questionable hire and has made some poor decisions thus far but he hasn’t completely sucked as Tigers head coach.
But continue your unflappable hatred for the man. You’re entitled to be a douche.
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:21 am to JohnnyU
quote:
Chizik has A skin courtesy of Cam Newton and Nick Fairley.
So no credit for being DC of another undefeated Auburn team? Or a national title team in Texas? Or a division champion at fricking UNC? Or winning the Broyles Award? Those are some rather notable skins compared to a lot of coaches.
quote:
Orgeron was a questionable hire and has made some poor decisions thus far but he hasn’t completely sucked as Tigers head coach.
This sure inspires confidence.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:25 am to JohnnyU
quote:I'm a douche for commenting on your belittling Chizik........and practically everyone who's ever coached football if they're mentioned in the same sentence with Orgeron?
The same way that Chizik is a joke. Miserable record at Iowa State. He was a spectacular 5-19 there. Except for Cam and Fairley he would have tanked at AU as well.
The Joke is on Chizik because Orgeron is likely to outlast him. Gene's just jealous.
Read your post above and have a look in the mirror.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 1:24 pm to nvasil1
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f he said that about the front 7, I don't agree with him, but he was one of the best defensive coaches in the country for over a decade. Hopefully he isn't seeing something that we're all missing.
bro, he isn't seeing anything because he's not a real journalist. he puts on makeup and a suit and just starts talking. just like 80% of all talking heads. you think he studied LSU film? lol, no......
Posted on 8/31/18 at 2:30 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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It’s such a perfect display of the logical inconsistency required to pretend as though we didn’t make an absolute dogshit hire to replace the most successful coach in LSU history.
How's this for a display of illogical inconsistency.....
Auburn hire Gene Chizik who was 5-19 at Iowa State included 0-8 in the Big XII in 2008
2 years after 0-8, Chizik goes 14-0 and wins a NC
2 years after that, Chizik goes 3-9 (0-8) in the SEC
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I love when Chizik gets bashed by the guys that believe in a coach that hasn’t had anywhere near the success he has had in his career.
Say what you want, but Orgeron's overall record was 22-29 when LSU hired him. Chizik was 5-19 when Auburn hired him. Who the bigger dog shite hire is is debatable but Orgeron is currently employed as a head coach and Chizik is not.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 3:26 pm to LSU82BILL
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Who the bigger dog shite hire is is debatable
quote:
Head coaching record
Overall 38–38
Bowls 3–0
Accomplishments and honors
Championships
1 National (2010)
1 SEC (2010)
Awards
Broyles Award (2004)
Home Depot Coach of the Year (2010)
Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year Award (2010)
Paul "Bear" Bryant Award (2010)
SEC Coach of the Year (2010)
vs
10-25 when LSU hired him as HC, never produced a team to make it to a bowl, no accomplishments or honors other than babysitting another coaches program.
He's never even been considered as a Defensive Coordinator.
If you had to chose in 2016, do you really think you would actually debate between these 2? Seriously?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 3:29 pm to wunder
quote:A PIECE OF shite AND HE PAY'S DETILLIER
Chizik’s hatred of O and LSU...
Posted on 8/31/18 at 3:44 pm to Mayhawman
So you want to use Chizik's overall record after he left Auburn and Orgeron's record without the 12-4 record as an interim HC?
The question was who was a bigger dogshite HIRE.
Even if you want to ignore Orgeron's 12-4 interim record where 6 of those wins were against ranked opponents, his 10-25 record in the SEC West is better than Chizik's 5-9 in the Big XII North.
This guy was never a coordinator.....
or this guy
or this guy
>
Orgeron wasn't my choice but I'd have taken him over Chizik.
The question was who was a bigger dogshite HIRE.
Even if you want to ignore Orgeron's 12-4 interim record where 6 of those wins were against ranked opponents, his 10-25 record in the SEC West is better than Chizik's 5-9 in the Big XII North.
quote:
He's never even been considered as a Defensive Coordinator.
This guy was never a coordinator.....
or this guy
or this guy
> quote:
If you had to chose in 2016, do you really think you would actually debate between these 2? Seriously?
Orgeron wasn't my choice but I'd have taken him over Chizik.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/31/18 at 3:54 pm to LSU82BILL
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Those guys all had one opportunity to hit it out of the park and they did. They didn't fall flat on their faces.
quote:
his guy was never a coordinator.....
or this guy
or this guy
Those guys all had one opportunity to hit it out of the park and they did. They didn't fall flat on their faces.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:01 pm to wunder
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Was certainly on display tonight on SEC Now. The guy could barely control himself throughout the LSU segment with smirking and eye-rolls.
He truly seems to be a miserable POS and it’ll be fun watching him pull the foot out of his mouth if/when LSU exceeds expectations.
He's probably exhibiting some passive aggressive white knighting for Les.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:25 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
Those guys all had one opportunity to hit it out of the park and they did
At Bowling Green
......and The University of San Diego State
Harbaugh was 17-20 after 3 seasons at Stanford
Dabo was 19-15 after 2+ at Clemson
If Orgeron goes 6-6 this year, his overall record (21-12) would still be better than those 2 and he'll be run out of town.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:29 pm to LSU82BILL
quote:LOL on that.
Orgeron wasn't my choice but I'd have taken him over Chizik.
And I'll allow Dabo, but Jim and Urban have OCs that run their offenses, and those offenses follow them wherever they go.
Harbugh cut his teeth at a small school after QB coach in NFL.
Likewise with Meyer starting small school, and o you think BGSU was running the OC Studs offense, or Meyer?.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:37 pm to LSU82BILL
Still a silly comparison
I admit I don’t know the conditions of those programs when those coaches took over, but I can’t imagine O as HC having success at a currently non successful school. O could not rebuild Ole Miss. In fact, they got worse over the years under him.
Put O as HC in both their situations and then put them as HC in the same situation at LSU.
You honestly feel O could do better or even simar at a smaller school?? I honestly do not, and there’s a reason no one wanted him as HC.
I would love to see O’s record taking over a bowling green or Stanford. We already saw it at an Ole Miss.
The year prior to O’s interim gig here, LSU was essentially a 10 win team that he just inherited.. and he also inherited one of the best defensive staffs in all of college football.
It’s just seems silly to even begin to compare him with those successful coaches. We shall see. I just feel O will always have a limited ceiling. Even if you think him winning 9 games a season is better, I can’t seem him becoming a national championship caliber HC. I’d be thrilled for LSU to be wrong.
I admit I don’t know the conditions of those programs when those coaches took over, but I can’t imagine O as HC having success at a currently non successful school. O could not rebuild Ole Miss. In fact, they got worse over the years under him.
Put O as HC in both their situations and then put them as HC in the same situation at LSU.
You honestly feel O could do better or even simar at a smaller school?? I honestly do not, and there’s a reason no one wanted him as HC.
I would love to see O’s record taking over a bowling green or Stanford. We already saw it at an Ole Miss.
The year prior to O’s interim gig here, LSU was essentially a 10 win team that he just inherited.. and he also inherited one of the best defensive staffs in all of college football.
It’s just seems silly to even begin to compare him with those successful coaches. We shall see. I just feel O will always have a limited ceiling. Even if you think him winning 9 games a season is better, I can’t seem him becoming a national championship caliber HC. I’d be thrilled for LSU to be wrong.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:55 pm to Mayhawman
quote:
but Jim and Urban have OCs that run their offenses
Great,.....but the original issue that was raised was that, just like Orgeron, those guys were never coordinators.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:58 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
there’s a reason no one wanted him as HC.
OK - but there's a long list of coaches with much much better records than Orgeron's at Ole Miss that fall into that category.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 5:09 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
I admit I don’t know the conditions of those programs when those coaches took over, but I can’t imagine O as HC having success at a currently non successful school.
Stanford was 1-11 the year before Harbaugh and had 5 straight losing seasons. His 4th year they were 12-1.
Bowling Green was 2-9 the year before Meyer was hired and had 6 straight losing seasons. He went 8-3 his first year and 9-3. He then went 22-2 in 2 years at Utah.
Trying to compare Coach Yaw Yaw to those guys because they weren’t coordinators is nonsense. It’s like comparing Chizik and Saban because they were both Defensive Coordinators. ETA and won a National Title at their 2nd P5 job
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 8/31/18 at 5:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Stanford was 1-11 the year before Harbaugh and had 5 straight losing seasons. His 4th year they were 12-1.
Bowling Green was 2-9 the year before Meyer was hired and had 6 straight losing seasons. He went 8-3 his first year and 9-3. He then went 22-2 in 2 years at Utah.
Trying to compare Coach Yaw Yaw to those guys because they weren’t coordinators is nonsense. It’s like comparing Chizik and Saban because they were both Defensive Coordinators.
facts do NOT matter
Posted on 8/31/18 at 5:42 pm to pellietigersaint
He also said that we lost all our WRs from last season, as a negative. While that is a true statement however, Giles has had a better career than all those guys combined.
IMO,the group of WRs on this team is far superior in talent, and the coaching is the best in a decade or more. I expect the WRs to perform well.
We will know in about three weeks if Chizik knows more than fan five hundred miles from Baton Rouge.
IMO,the group of WRs on this team is far superior in talent, and the coaching is the best in a decade or more. I expect the WRs to perform well.
We will know in about three weeks if Chizik knows more than fan five hundred miles from Baton Rouge.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 6:04 pm to wunder
Who cares what his opinion is?
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