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Chiefs final play originally named "Corndog" similar to LSU/Bama 2022 ending

Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:06 pm
Coincidence? Name got changed to "Tom and Jerry" but that would be hilarious if they picked it up from the 2022 Bama game.

LSU Bama ending

Chiefs 49ers ending

Posted by WDAIII
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:08 pm to
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Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:08 pm to
It’s the most common 2 pt play at every level of football. Brian Kelly didn’t create the play on his own.
Posted by Odysseus32
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:20 pm to
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Posted by Relham10
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:28 pm to
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Andy Reid

The real life coach Red Beaulieu stole Denbrocks notebook
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:30 pm to
Clemson uses that play concept vs Bama in ‘16(?)

ETA: Downvote all you want, its the same conceptually. LSU did it cleaner but same concept.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 10:01 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:18 pm to
It’s pretty dang hard to stop when run correctly

But it’s nothing new
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:24 pm to
The ironic thing is they ran that motion twice last year for late TDs in the Super Bowl. Then they waited until the perfect time to run it again. No doubt SF was aware of it. But great coaches know the right time to call the right play. SF knew the game was over before Mahomes even let the ball go
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:41 pm to
So I guess you could say LSU won the Super Bowl.
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:42 pm to
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Clemson uses that play vs Bama in ‘16(?)


No that was a different play. Pick play.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:49 pm to
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You think there's even a slight chance that Andy Reid, a guy who has been coaching for over 40 years, who coached on a staff with Brett Favre, brought Donovan McNabb and the eagles to the superbowl, and has been the head guy for Mahomes' entire career stole a play from Mike Denbrock?



I mean in this case you’re correct but the greats steal from everybody. I guarantee that Andy Reid has at least one play in his mental data bank that he stole from a high school coach somewhere along the way.
Posted by msully
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:04 pm to
Part of the game plan
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:21 pm to
Andy draws up and calls plays that he’s taken from the wing T. He’s a football historian, and you use what works. I’m sure BK draws from history and the present day stuff other teams do as well. That’s the mark of a great coach. Willingness to learn from others.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Geaux Guy
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:06 am to
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It’s the most common 2 pt play at every level of football. Brian Kelly didn’t create the play on his own.




At least we can claim ‘Hold That Tiger’, ‘Neck’, and ‘Death Valley’. …oh, wait…
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:25 am to
You gotta have the right personnel to run that play though. A QB who can run and a TE who knows how to read the defense. Luckily for us, we’ve had both the last 2 seasons with JD5 and mason taylor.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 3:26 am
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:58 am to
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No that was a different play. Pick play.


LOL its the same play. CONCEPT: Inside guy goes flats while player(s) outside of him go(es) in to clog the lane, freeing up the flats.


The only difference is that Clemson player actually blocked which is illegal. He probably wasn't supposed to actively block but make his defender get in the way of the other defender. LSU had 2 outside guys and Clem had 1. WHich is probably why it looked cleaner when we did it. 4 men in the way vs 2. LSU also used motion which helped.

KC's play had Hardman wide and motion in then back out. Niners defense was confused and just didn't cover him. HOnestly it was less similar to LSU's play than the Clemson one.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:39 am to
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You gotta have the right personnel to run that play though. A QB who can run and a TE who knows how to read the defense. Luckily for us, we’ve had both the last 2 seasons with JD5 and mason taylor.


LOL what? KC threw to the outside WR and Mahommes didn't look to run at all.

Its a throw to the flats. If you go back and watch it, the Niners defense didn't cover Hardman. They were confused on assignment.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Downvote all you want, its the same conceptually. LSU did it cleaner but same concept.


It just appears that way because LSU was more spread out. KC was tight formation wise. Because of this there less traffic and LSU was on the far hash and KC was on the near hash LSU used TE as the catcher so the play developed slower. Both were ran perfectly. As others have said this play is as old as dirt. Everyone has it in their playbook.
Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:03 pm to
My response wasn’t about KC it was about how Clemson ran it against Bama in ‘16.
Posted by BBATiger
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:02 pm to
One was a TE moving towards the sideline at the snap.
The other was a WR motioning towards QB then reversing direction at the snap.

Not really the same, unless you factor there were 22 guys wearing football uniforms on the field.
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