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re: Chad Jones hit was NOT helmet to helmet

Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:20 pm to
Swagga alert?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

But that doesn't change the fact that it was helmet to helmet. And it certainly doesn't change the fact that even if it wasn't helmet to helmet, the Ridley OOB play was orders of magnitude worse of a call.


His helmet NEVER touched the other guys helmet. He is coached to put his helmet across the #'s of the WR..........he did. You are being a bitch cause you want to and not looking at the play with objectivity.........Chad Jones NEVER lowered his head, you can see his head cross the face of the WR........but you like pussy football for the sake of being a pussy.

Have a good night. TIGERS WIN.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

could have been called either H2H or not.


This is were I think the problem stems from. I think the current problem is defining, leading with the helmet, going for the head, and helmet to helmet contact. Just because the helmets touch does not mean that a penalty should be called, imo.


Just because helmet to helmet contact occurs, does not mean one of the latter two occurred. This is further compounded by moronic fans that think every time helmets touch violently, that either leading with the helmet or going fo the head has occurred. When clearly, there can be cases when helmet to helmet contact can occur without the later.
Posted by tigerfan76
Shreveport, LA
Member since Jan 2008
338 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

But that doesn't change the fact that it was helmet to helmet. And it certainly doesn't change the fact that even if it wasn't helmet to helmet, the Ridley OOB play was orders of magnitude worse of a call.


Are you trying to make LSU fans hope that your fingers end up ensconed in a cast?
Posted by CommanderHeavy
Downtown Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
3386 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:22 pm to
I think the helmets glanced eachother as CJ was laying it into the guy's shoulder. The call isn't that hard to make, because supposedly the sound that this makes is pretty obvious. Even in Death Valley.
Posted by jesterJ
Near the Northern Lights
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Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:22 pm to
don't need youtube, the replay on the TV indicated that it was not...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:22 pm to
he definitely led with his helmet
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:22 pm to
I love reposting the same images. If anyone says they see helmets hitting here (besides maybe earholes), they are making something up.

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Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Whoa, whoa now. Are you saying the helmets did not obviously slam in the Jones hit?


Yes watch the got damn play..........Jones's helmet never touched the WR's.........Momentum and 230lbs caused the helmet to come off........GOD watch the play.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:24 pm to


Helmet across the body......just like he is COACHED to do. NOTICE HIS FACEMASK HITTING THE GUYS LEFT ACROMION PROCESS ON THE TOP OF THE HUMERUS!
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 11:29 pm
Posted by CommanderHeavy
Downtown Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

I love reposting the same images. If anyone says they see helmets hitting here (besides maybe earholes), they are making something up.



These photos do not disprove that the helmets hit (the sides) of each other. Life is not a 2D image.
Posted by hacanms
Lincoln County, MS
Member since Feb 2007
2810 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

L S Usetheforce


I am hoping this post was not directed towards me. I am neither a bitch or a pussy as you so eloquently wrote. Even if it wasn't directed towards me the fact that you would even call a fellow poster such juvenile names is in itself extremely juvenile.

Isn't it past your bedtime?
Posted by lsudiva2010
2014 Class B BBall Champions
Member since Jan 2008
19302 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

he definitely led with his helmet



Which, while it sucked and while it shook up Chad more than the Arky player, is the truth. It sucks, but it's true...

Nasty hit, both are lucky they were OK and made it back into the game
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:25 pm to

quote:

These photos do not disprove that the helmets hit (the sides) of each other. Life is not a 2D image.


If the sides of the helmet hit he did not LEAD with his helmet dumbass.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

I am hoping this post was not directed towards me. I am neither a bitch or a pussy as you so eloquently wrote. Even if it wasn't directed towards me the fact that you would even call a fellow poster such juvenile names is in itself extremely juvenile.

Isn't it past your bedtime?


Seriously, it wasn't directed toward you but you.......In fact, I do not even understand how you can ascertain that from what I've written and you have written sir, but never the less you should probably sip beer with JerseyTiger.
Posted by CommanderHeavy
Downtown Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
3386 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

If the sides of the helmet hit he did not LEAD with his helmet dumbass.



People who call others "dumbass" on the internet are usually impossible to reason with. If the rules say that leading with the helmet is "OK" if it only hits the sides of the helmets, then okay.. the call was bad.

Either way, the call was made. Some disagree with you. Get over it.
Posted by stuee
Member since Nov 2009
3 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:30 pm to
Anyone that believes the Latech hit was a missed call and this one was clean needs more Kool-Aid.
Posted by stuee
Member since Nov 2009
3 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:30 pm to
Anyone that believes the Latech hit was a missed call and this one was clean needs more Kool-Aid.
Posted by tigermikear
Member since Sep 2007
120 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

If the rules say that leading with the helmet is "OK" if it only hits the sides of the helmets, then okay.. the call was bad


This is all academic anyway. no biggie. But the call was helmet to helmet contact as a personal foul. and it wasn't...it just looked like it at full speed. Could have been a costly missed call, (and was at the time). Jones helmet hits Adams shoulder pad.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:31 pm to
Leading with the helmet is intentionally using it as the first point of contact..........It's obvious from the pictures and the live feed that it wasn't.............Arguing otherwise is only feeding to the futility of non contact and proper tackling that most rantards bitch about in football today.
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