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re: CFN's Fiutak on "The SEC (/LSU) and the national title."

Posted on 8/25/08 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 2:45 pm to
I've never understood the amount of respect people give Fiutak. I think it's just because he happens to have a job with CFN.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24477 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 2:57 pm to
I don't disagree with any of your scenarios and your general point in this matter, but don't blame Scott on a play that the pulling guard whiffs on his man.
This post was edited on 8/25/08 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1660 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 3:41 pm to
Holy crap people. You have got to stop seeing anti-LSU in such innocuous commentary! Fiu's point was that the record should not be the be-all, end-all when judging whether a team is to be considered for the national championship game!

The subject of the initial conversation was LSU. Yes, LSU's loss to Arkansas was inexcusable. So was West Virginia's loss to Pitt. But the paragraph was not about WV, it was about LSU. Raise your hand if, after the loss to Arkansas, you were saying to all your buddies, "Hey, after all, it was Arkansas. They've had a great season. I half expected them to come into Baton Rouge and devastate our season." Nope, every one of us was saying it was terrible to lose to Arkansas, and we needed the miracle of Mizzou and WV losing to get back into the BCS NCG.

Every article is not a slam on LSU. Get over it.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24477 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 4:24 pm to
Revisionist history.

Arkansas vs. LSU will be close four out of five times that we play.

I only read what was posted on this board. I have read some of his previous work and generally agree with his opinions, but for someone to take issue with his comments in this article is not surprising to me.

It doesn't really bother me much, it's just blatantly obvious that he paints the picture and loses objectivity.
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 5:14 pm to


1. CFN is the best at what they do. Hands down.


2. No one who wants a layoff can complain about LSU being a 2-loss team NC.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

1. CFN is the best at what they do. Hands down.


They used to be pretty good, but were bought out a year or two ago. Since then, the quality has pretty much gone into the crapper.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Now, let’s Georgia pulls an LSU and wins the SEC title with an impressive 35-10 win over Auburn,


Theres your problem! LSU will pull the LSU and beat Florida in the SECCG.

Here is your other problem:

quote:

Let’s say,

quote:

Now, let’s say

quote:

Now, let’s say


Now lets say that after what happend last year, anything can happen... and making up ridiculous scenarios (like Clemson going undefeated; and the BCS not causing controversy) are a waste of time. There is no way the two loss UGA /(SEC team of your choice) jumps any BCS, undefeated team. No matter how much anybody cries about it.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 5:32 pm to
Pete Fiutak on LSU:

2006 Preview:
LINK


2007 Preview:
LINK


Posted by AlaskanLSUfan
NOLA
Member since Mar 2005
2248 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 5:35 pm to
this scenario would be alot more contraversial if Ohio St and Clemson both had 1 loss instead of being undefeated.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1660 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 6:11 pm to
You guys are missing the point. Ya'll keep saying, "2-loss team. Out of the question."

But the point is to consider if there is a scenario where a 2-loss team from a BCS conference is better than an undefeated team from another BCS conference. We can already clearly agree based on LSU and Georgia vs. Hawaii last year that the case holds true for non-BCS teams. Fiu's question then becomes, can that comparison extend to any BCS teams? If so, then what does college football do about THAT?
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1660 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Arkansas vs. LSU will be close four out of five times that we play.


2007 - 48-50 3OT Close
2006 - 31-26 Close
2005 - 19-17 Close
2004 - 43-14 Not Close
2003 - 55-24 Not Close

I'm just sayin. :)
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64470 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 6:31 pm to
I think that Fiutak's article would have been much more compelling if he had....

Let's say UGA only loses a 27-26 game at LSU (or the Cocktail party), and Clemson runs the table in a weak ACC conference....

Now were talking controversy. I'd say, put the Dawgs in the big game.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12170 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

no 2 loss team should play for the national championship over an undefeated BCS team


Really! So a two loss Georgia team who loses to LSU and Florida in triple overtime, but wins the SEC Championship game, should not be considered over an undefeated Hawaii, BYU, or Bosie State team who goes undefeated.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

2007 - 48-50 3OT Close
2006 - 31-26 Close
2005 - 19-17 Close
2004 - 43-14 Not Close
2003 - 55-24 Not Close

I'm just sayin. :)


2006 - 31-26 Close
2005 - 19-17 Close
2004 - 43-14 Not Close
2003 - 55-24 Not Close
2002 - 20-21 Close
2001 - 41-38 Close
2000 - 3-14 Close

just sayin'
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15595 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

no 2 loss team should play for the national championship over an undefeated BCS team


quote:

Really! So a two loss Georgia team who loses to LSU and Florida in triple overtime, but wins the SEC Championship game, should not be considered over an undefeated Hawaii, BYU, or Bosie State team who goes undefeated.


Really! You need a lesson in who is a BCS team and who is not. The teams you mentioned are not in a BCS conference.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

It's always amazing to me how nothing excuses even the slightest failure by LSU (toughest schedule, horrible calls by biased refs, unbelievable rash of injuries, etc.)


Don't worry, typical LSU fans always provide enough excuses as evidenced above.

And name me one excuse USC or the media gave for the Trojans losing to Stanford?

LSU fans never hold themselves accountable...it's always about injuries...like you guys are the only ones who have injuries. USC had more injuries than anyone last year and yet you don't hear them complaining that their QB played with a broken hand and that USC's linebackers were hurt for the Stanford game not to mention half their O-line went down the first two weeks.

USC lost...that's football. LSU lost...that's football.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1660 posts
Posted on 8/25/08 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

2000 - 3-14


That game was not close.
Posted by rtgr
New Orleans/Jackson Wyoming
Member since Nov 2005
2528 posts
Posted on 8/26/08 at 1:52 am to
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Raise your hand if, after the loss to Arkansas, you were saying to all your buddies, "Hey, after all, it was Arkansas. They've had a great season. I half expected them to come into Baton Rouge and devastate our season."


What I was saying was.....Hey, we are banged up badly. Our qb is going half speed, our D is missing 4 key players and Arkansas played their best game of the season by far and it STILL took them 3 OTs to win the game.
But of course, folks like you were thinking that if only little Nicky was still here LSU would have beaten KU by 30 and Arkansas by 21.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45877 posts
Posted on 8/26/08 at 2:09 am to
While we're re-writing history, I've heard a couple of people on ESPN (Ed Cunnngham, for one) saying LSU/Ohio State wasn't a blowout.
Cunninghm said that was a close game where a few plays went LSU's way.

Where I come from, rolling up 31 points in a row on someone is called a good old country arse-whipping.
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