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re: Casan Evans should have been the first reliever for Eyanson on Saturday

Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:00 am to
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:00 am to
agreed, and I also agree that he pulled Eyanson to early. How he thought what he brought in was going to be better than Eyanson is hard to comprehend. Evans in the 7th up one run to secure the series was a no brainer imo.
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
10214 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:15 am to
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He can't simply burn Cowan and Evans everytime we have a lead and pull a starter.


So what you’re really saying is if you have a car show to win with 2 contestants you’re bringing your 2006 Chevy Impala instead of your Ferrari 250 GTO?

What’s wrong with bringing in your best on Friday and Saturday, winning, and then playing Sunday loose in a game with no real negative but serious upside if you win??
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by lsupicker
Member since Oct 2015
1379 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:27 am to
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78015 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:27 am to
it’s really frustrating

We had multiple opportunities to put him in with the lead

and I sorta excuses the first time being a situation where we needed to fill innings, his longest out was 2.1 so we knew we’d need a few other guys to give us something first.


but sunday we let him go 3.2

I mean out him in in the 5th and you make it almost to the end of the game.

1 run that’s a 7-4 game with 4 outs to get?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61646 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:38 am to
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You don't think Evans could have held off Texas after the 6th inning with LSU up by one, 6-5 and 9 innings left?


I didn’t say that. You’ve invented a straw man to argue with.

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IMO Evans was much more valuable in that situation than Sunday


Obviously.

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He may not have been able to put up three innings of zeros in that situation but at least you give your team a fighting chance. His arm was a lot less valuable Sunday than it could have been Saturday, IMO.


He gave the team a fighting chance on Sunday. Unfortunately, LSU couldn’t really touch UTs freshman.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61646 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:42 am to
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You're treating an SEC weekend like a playoff matchup.

He can't simply burn Cowan and Evans everytime we have a lead and pull a starter.


To be fair, that’s exactly what he did with Cowan on Friday. He used him up in a situation he didn’t need to.

JJ knows he needs to develop the pen. If the pen looks like this at the end of the year, I think he will start being more picky with where he uses Cowan and Evans.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70970 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:51 am to
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To be fair, that’s exactly what he did with Cowan on Friday. He used him up in a situation he didn’t need to.

I think Texas showed they had no trouble scoring 6 runs on the rest of our bullpen. They scored 9 runs in 4 innings on our bullpen Saturday. I had no issue with Cowan coming in and preventing any stress from happening on Friday. We left Friday with everyone but Cowan and Anderson available. That was a win.

Where I think Jay screwed up with pulling Eyanson too early to play the L/L matchup and then compounding that problem putting a not ready Schmidt in the game. Those two saw 5 batters and 4 of them reached base. And Ware threw a wild pitch his very first pitch to get the runner in from 3rd. Even despite that, we were able to retake the lead in the 6th and Texas didn't score in the bottom half. That was the time to bring in Evans. Instead, he leaves in Benge and Texas retook the lead and never looked back. Obviously hindsight is awesome to have, but I think most didn't like those moves when they happened either.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 11:52 am
Posted by LSUFAN2027
Member since Mar 2025
10 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:30 pm to
Are you freaking slow????? It is about winning games. That's how you get there. What in the holy cr@p did you just spew. Stop talking, it's poisoning the non-ret@rds.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61646 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:31 pm to
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I think Texas showed they had no trouble scoring 6 runs on the rest of our bullpen. They scored 9 runs in 4 innings on our bullpen Saturday. I had no issue with Cowan coming in and preventing any stress from happening on Friday. We left Friday with everyone but Cowan and Anderson available. That was a win.


I think Cowan showed he “had no trouble holding Texas to a smaller lead” and could have come in later if needed.

You are measuring decisions based on hindsight. I’m not. You can make correct decisions that don’t work out.

Pitching Cowan with a 6 run lead was a mistake IMO on paper. Now maybe he was already warmed up and his options were limited.

In the same way, not pitching Evans in the 5th was reasonable. Those complaining are simply using hindsight. And the same logic of “Texas showed they were going to hit anyone but Cowan and Evans on the bullpen” could be used to point out why he wanted to get into a position to let Evans end the game.

In one case I’m disagreeing with JJ. In another, I’m defending him. So clearly I’m not a hater or a sunshine pumper.

But in general, if you have a short list of trusted bullpen arms…you better optimize their use. He didn’t do that with Cowan. He tried to do it with Evans but ran into a situation that he had to throw him out there with a 4 run deficit.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51275 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:14 pm to
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So what you’re really saying is if you have a car show to win with 2 contestants you’re bringing your 2006 Chevy Impala instead of your Ferrari 250 GTO?


This may be one of the worst analogies I've seen on here.

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What’s wrong with bringing in your best on Friday and Saturday, winning, and then playing Sunday loose in a game with no real negative but serious upside if you win??


Because you can't expect them to go 3-4 IP every game to close a game first of all, second of all you need to save them for high leverage situations and lastly we aren't going to win shite in June unless we develop other bullpen arms and get them experience in these hostile road situations.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23232 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:29 pm to
Yes pitching Cowan Friday with a 6 run lead was retarded. Who cares if he was warmed up pitch him one inning so he can come back Saturday or Sunday. Throwing him 3 innings with 6 run lead was just dumb.
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1329 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:49 pm to
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It's perfectly acceptable to let Ware and Schmidt pitch there

20/20 hindsight, but Schmidt was an odd choice after pulling Ware for a five pitch walk on the first batter he faced.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19963 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:43 pm to
I expect CJJ wasn't pleased with the series and he learned some things from the weekend.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11388 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:47 pm to
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LSUFAN2027

Since you're young and probably new to this Ill explain it to you.

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Are you freaking slow????? It is about winning games.

No it's about winning championships. They're not the same thing. No one cares who the regular season champion is. Winning it all in baseball is about timing your peak and you don't get there without guys like Ware and Schmidt becoming reliable in critical moments
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51577 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:52 pm to
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Are you freaking slow????? It is about winning games. That's how you get there. What in the holy cr@p did you just spew. Stop talking, it's poisoning the non-ret@rds.
You are dead wrong, and Yeti has it right. Skip Bertman and Paul Mainieri made moves in March and April to improve their team. They balanced that with trying to win games. CJJ has a thoroughbred team this year. He needs to focus on improving that team and don’t worry about wins and losses. This team is good enough to host a Regional, and probably a Super, regardless if they lose a half dozen games from experimenting.
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