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Posted on 11/19/10 at 9:52 pm to lsutigermall
I wonder how fast Cannon would've been had he dropped from 210lbs to 180lbs ? I would think if a sprinter took 30 POUNDS off his back he would have been just a little FASTER ! LOL. Who knows how fast he could have been because he was a football player first.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:00 pm to deuce985
Cannon was as big or bigger than every lineman on his team, and as fast or faster than anyone at that time in college football.
anyone that has that type of Talent would play in any era. It is ignorant to say he was slow, or that he would not play in this era.
It's a dumb argument anyway. Why am I participating. HaHa
anyone that has that type of Talent would play in any era. It is ignorant to say he was slow, or that he would not play in this era.
It's a dumb argument anyway. Why am I participating. HaHa
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:58 pm to Louie T
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He didn't run a 10.1 100M.
10.39
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:06 pm to wilfont
I always thought it was funny that the ref kept pace with him for the entire run 
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:13 pm to TheoreticalTiger
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I always thought it was funny that the ref kept pace with him for the entire run
Once Cannon crossed midfield, there wasn't an Ole Miss player in sight and he clearly slows down.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:53 pm to MetryTyger
Cannon ran the world record holder Bobby Morrow at the texas relays and ran the same time 9.4 in the 100 YD dash. He also ran the 220 Yd Dash and ran the final leg one both the 100 and the 220 YD relays I think he only placed 2nd in the Shot put....He was 15 lbs off the Olympic record in the Military press.I dont think he was ever beat in the 100 Yd. Dash in the SEC
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:54 pm to deuce985
quote:you have to take into account that film is a lot slower than reality too, he is much faster than he looks in the clip.
Seems like he ran that play in about 40 seconds flat. Did anyone have speed back then...
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:57 pm to tigersnip
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He was 15 lbs off the Olympic record in the Military press.
I think it was technically the clean & press, but that's basically the same thing, since most anybody will be able to clean more than they can press.
They changed it to clean & jerk in the early 70's after the Soviet lifters kept arching their backs way too far backward. The thing started turning into a contortionist event...
Posted on 11/20/10 at 12:03 am to ottothewise
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He ran a 10 flat 100 often, and a couple of times 9.6 which was world class at the time.
This is true. Guy ran a sub 10, 100 and he was world class speed.
He could bench press 450 pounds and was an all around incredible track and field athlete (shot put).
I know it's hard to believe because, well, it was 1958 and he was white but Billy Cannon was a freak of an athlete. Even by today's standards running a sub 10 100 and benching 450 is pretty damn good.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 12:57 am to MetryTyger
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Were any of you at that Halloween 1959 game who may remember in what direction Cannon returned his famous 89 yard punt return?
On TV it looks like he caught it on the South end and returned it to the North end. Correct?
one of my top three moments in tiger stadium was when they played the video on the big screen of him running it back... and cannon was standing in the south side where he caught the ball... i got chills.
I wasn't born when it happened so i guess that is the next best thing.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 4:52 pm to gumbeauxx
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This was before the platoon (Go, White, Chinese Bandits)?
Cannon was on the White team. The White team consisted of the best players and they played both ways. Despite all of the press at the time about the Chinese Bandits, when the game was on the line, Dietzel wanted Mac to have the White team in - such as the goal line stand in the same game - Cannon assisted on the fourth down stop, because the White team was in the game.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 5:02 pm to Ace Midnight
I guess we'll just have to put up with all these "old wise tales"
Posted on 11/21/10 at 5:14 pm to flyingtexastiger
Billy Cannon could roundhouse Chuck Norris thru the bars of Mike's cage.
Just had to toss one in.
Just had to toss one in.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 5:16 pm to flyingtexastiger
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I guess we'll just have to put up with all these "old wise tales"
Young people today tend to dismiss some of the older traditions. I'm only 43, but during my time at LSU, the Daily Reveille had regular stories during football season reminding us of the LSU football traditions. Kids today see the run, on grainy film that doesn't accurately reflect the speed of the game, muddy field during the segregated era and make snap decisions. I've even heard youngsters say stuff like "It was just a punt return" and "It was just Ole Miss..."
They ignore the Vaught era completely, how bad LSU had been just 4 or 5 years prior to the "Golden Age" of LSU football, and the fact that the 1959 Ole Miss-LSU game was probably the CFB game of the decade. (And we lost the rematch with the Rebels in the Sugar Bowl - badly, 21-0, AFTER Cannon won the Heisman).
Posted on 11/21/10 at 5:19 pm to MetryTyger
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Were any of you at that Halloween 1959 game
Anybody that was at that game does not know how to use a computer. Secondly, Cannon stepped out of bounds ::covershead:
Posted on 11/21/10 at 6:37 pm to wilfont
I seem to remember that he ran close to a 10 flt 100 yard dash. I don't know what his 40 time was
Posted on 11/21/10 at 7:01 pm to Grandmike
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I seem to remember that he ran close to a 10 flt 100 yard dash. I don't know what his 40 time was
He had hand-timed 100yd dashes in the 9.4/9.5/9.6 range. Reportedly he could run a 9.6 in cleats or basketball shoes. His football speed, at the time, was nearly unmatched. Because he was a bruiser in the mold of Jim Brown, he was well known for going out of his way to run over the last defender on breakaways and returns.
As I maintained, he would not likely start today, except possibly at safety, but could be a major contributer as a third down back/return man. He might be asked to bulk up to play linebacker full-time (or TE as he did in the pros). His ball skills were outstanding, and his size/speed/strength combination would be impressive, even today, though not overly so.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 7:27 pm to Ace Midnight
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He was an exceptionally gifted athlete for his era. Cannon would earn a scholarship today. He would not start (except possibly at safety), but could play backup corner, tailback or H-back and would still be able to return kicks.
The single most idiotic post I have ever seen.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 7:30 pm to Tigertracks
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The single most idiotic post I have ever seen.
So, which side are you on, then? "Cannon would win the Heisman at HB, even today" crowd, or the "Cannon couldn't even walk-on today" mob?
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