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re: Can we win with a 2011 type defense and bad offense?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:07 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:07 pm to SammyTiger
quote:13 wins, SECW, SEC champs?
we didn't in 2011.
Basically screwed out of a NC by having to give the only team in CFB on your level a rematch?
Cmon.
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:10 pm to Mayhawman
How bout for '16 you just use offensive numbers put up by coach E? Being he is back as the OC.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:13 pm to Mayhawman
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13 wins, SECW, SEC champs? Basically screwed out of a NC by having to give the only team in CFB on your level a rematch? Cmon.
Only to get cornholed bc Miles/Jefferson on 1/9/12
Our offense was terrible, absolutely terrible when Jefferson took back over the starting job, especially at the end of the season.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:13 pm to Mayhawman
So we didn't win the NC in 2011 is what i am seeing.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:16 pm to Powerman
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Well he's just basing it off history. It's not like it's some wild unrealistic thought.
The future isn't based off of history. The offensive roster next year will be completely different than last year and the strengths likely lie in different areas.
We are deep at wide out and don't have the RB stable like we're usually spoiled with. Whether the offense is successful or not you can bet it will be different.
Based on returning production, LSU is ranked 114/120. So it’s not unreasonable to wonder how bad it will be if our somewhat mediocre offense of 2017 will be worse if we are going to be playing with players not good enough to crack that starting offense.
That being said, it is also not unreasonable to say we really have no idea what the season holds for LSU in offense.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:41 pm to theunknownknight
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13 wins, SECW, SEC champs? Basically screwed out of a NC by having to give the only team in CFB on your level a rematch? Cmon.
Only to get cornholed bc Miles/Jefferson on 1/9/12
Our offense was terrible, absolutely terrible when Jefferson took back over the starting job, especially at the end of the season.
That’s a good narrative, provided you don’t let the facts and statistics get in your way. The numbers look suspiciously similar in the regular season looking before the Alabama game vs after the Alabama game.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:55 pm to mdomingue
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Based on returning production, LSU is ranked 114/120.
Does that factor Giles into the equation?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:00 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Actually the stretch of games Jefferson started between 11-5 and SECCG was the highest total O of the season, and naturally it dropped off when facing the #5 and #1 defenses in the country, just like it did for Lee on 11-5-11(in spectacular fashion).
Our offense was terrible, absolutely terrible when Jefferson took back over the starting job, especially at the end of the season.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:02 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I do think our defense this year has that upside. Like the 2011 defense there were a lot of players who emerged and took their game to another level. There's a lot of those players in this years defnese. Divinity Jr, Monroe, Alexander, Tyler Taylor, Chassion, Fulton, delpit,
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:12 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Can we win with a 2011 type defense and bad offense?
History says that, in that exact scenario, we’d win every game up to the national championship game, then be embarassed 21-0 on the largest stage.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:16 pm to Da_binder
People forget how good the punt coverage team was that year too. Hopefully some of these wide outs can become elite gunners
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:16 pm to Powerman
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Does that factor Giles into the equation?
Purely based on returning players from last years roster, as I understand it.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:17 pm to SammyTiger
quote:OH, I didn't and still don't see "NC" in OP's question, but I guess it's subjective.
So we didn't win the NC in 2011 is what i am seeing.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:19 pm to mdomingue
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Purely based on returning players from last years roster, as I understand it.
Not surprising then. We know what we're losing in the skill position areas.
If Giles can be an immediate force that will help with some of the inexperience.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:27 pm to TheHarahanian
quote:Bama went undefeated in '09 with an even worse offense(scoring), and of course no mulligan.
History says that, in that exact scenario, we’d win every game up to the national championship game, then be embarassed 21-0 on the largest stage.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:15 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Win what? Of course we can win game with that formula. Just don’t expect to win against any top teams without being able to score points consistently.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:19 pm to Mayhawman
Yeah sure... that 2016 offense in the first 4 games was awful at best..... good thing O and Ensminger came around to help make the numbers better....
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:00 pm to Mayhawman
Please take a look at scoring offense, as that is the only offensive stat that matters.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:07 pm to dukke v
quote:Yeah Peej, Miles should have put his foot down with Cam protecting Harris and had Etling more ready for 2016.
Yeah sure... that 2016 offense in the first 4 games was awful at best..... good thing O and Ensminger came around to help make the numbers better....
Also the first 4 games had a couple tough defenses, where the remaining 8 games had only a couple tough Ds later in the schedule allowing more time for Etling to acclimate.
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