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re: Can we please use #10

Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49054 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:45 pm to
I know its heresy here, but forcing the ball to #10 is one of the many problems with our offense.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12264 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

I know its heresy here, but forcing the ball to #10 is one of the many problems with our offense.


Yes we are forcing it to him instead of snapping it to him.
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5416 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:48 pm to
Play calling with Shep this year has been worse than last year. If they can find a hybrid bewteen this year and last year, I would be ok with it. Just because he is playing a different position doesnt mean he cant do everything he did well last year (like read option at QB and Wildcat).
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:49 pm to
If you OL cannot block, it wouldn't matter if your QB was Mike Vick - he'd still be running for his life.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69517 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:50 pm to
It won't happen because it may just work. This coaching staff does not explore ways to improve the offense.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288307 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:52 pm to
within the first 2 drives, Jefferson could have handed the ball to Shep for big gains, but instead he kept hte ball himself on BOTH plays.

I cant help but think it was because he was trying to do too much himself, knowing he was coming out after the 2nd drive. But Shep would have had nice gains had JJ given him the ball each time.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288307 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:55 pm to
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i know you were talking to the other poster but i was trying to say that most of the time they were running the zone read...yes, i know they ran the wildcat as well but most of the time its power zone read...




They are basically the same thing. One is just ran with the QB, there is no special package there where a RB comes in exclusively to run that formation.

Auburn just keeps the QB in the game because he can run it just as effectively. People just dont freakout because they dont change personnel. "OH HEY HERE COMES THE WILDCAT!!"


its the same thing pretty much
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49054 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Yes we are forcing it to him instead of snapping it to him


You need to take your blinders off. He hasn't broken a single tackle or made one guy miss this season. That isn't a good thing for a QB that is going to run the ball into the heart of the defense.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31663 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

They are basically the same thing. One is just ran with the QB, there is no special package there where a RB comes in exclusively to run that formation.

Auburn just keeps the QB in the game because he can run it just as effectively. People just dont freakout because they dont change personnel. "OH HEY HERE COMES THE WILDCAT!!"


its the same thing pretty much


^^This - Cam Newton is a beast.
Posted by DoItBoyz
Member since Oct 2010
108 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:49 pm to
We have a lot of talent that needs to be used systematically. #10 just happen to be another source of wasted talent. Its a crying shame because #10 is a big play waiting to happen.
Posted by tigerbait98
NWLA
Member since Aug 2006
3554 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

One is just ran with the QB, there is no special package there where a RB comes in exclusively to run that formation.


Meh..
A rb lining up at the QB position isnt necessarily the indicator of the "wildcat" but rather the O-line alignment. As stated before, in Auburn's case a balanced line is the zone read and an unbalanced line is the wildcat.

Balanced = T G C G T = zone read (in Auburn's case)

Unbalanced = TE G C G T T = wildcat (in any case)

quote:

Auburn just keeps the QB in the game because he can run it just as effectively.

This

Cam is their best runner, hence the reason he runs both the zone read, zone read play action, and the wildcat.

Most schools put their best running threat at the Qb position and their next best at the jet motion position. Auburn's best runner happens to be their QB.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 2:00 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:09 pm to
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auburn runs a power zone read, not the wildcat. and when you have a QB is a true dual-threat like Newton, it works a lot better. but most people complain about JJ's inaccuracy, what makes you think Shepards will be any better?


Didnt say anything about shepard playing qb... said your an idiot for saying the wildcat is not being used anymore when Auburn killed us with it... The plays run saturday by Auburn were the same plays Arkansas ran in 2007, called by the same offensive coordinator... call it whatever name you want, like I said already you are arguing semantics...
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288307 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Meh..
A rb lining up at the QB position isnt necessarily the indicator of the "wildcat" but rather the O-line alignment. As stated before, in Auburn's case a balanced line is the zone read and an unbalanced line is the wildcat.

Balanced = T G C G T = zone read (in Auburn's case)

Unbalanced = TE G C G T T = wildcat (in any case)



my point is, the wildcat is a zone read, just without a QB running. And yes, the base wildcat features an unbalanced power line, but that really is the only variance.

the principals are the same, and the outcome generally is the same.

Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28040 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:22 pm to
He doesn't know the playbook, didn't u know
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3445 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 2:23 pm to
In the closing seconds of the game you could tell that RS and Randle along with other young players were upset and disgusted. For example Randle could have went to Auburn but he stayed home for this? Something has to be done becuase the players face's tell it all, they are not stupid they are thinking the same things we are.
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