re: Can we agree that Miles is the greatest LSU football coach...ever?

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and Saban had much more that that, so what's your point? You guys trying to downplay what Saban did while at LSU is some homo BS! Like said if he had this kind of great talent before arriving like y'all claim, why didn't he win a NC? he inherited good to ok talent, but nowhere near the kind of talent y'all make it to be.

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How is saying Miles is better, downplaying Saban? His legacy is what it is. It doesn't change what Saban did. No one in their right mind can say that Saban is better in light of what Miles has done at however. Saban did something great, which was rebuild the program and most of us are grateful for that. I don't see how in the hell someone can say Saban is a better coach, particularly considering their head/head record.

There are very few LSU fans, or football fans for that matter, that would deny that Saban is one of the best coaches in the last 25 years. Only a fool would argue against that proposition.

Two Ncs at two different schools within the time frame that he accomplished both is nothing short of amazing. When he leaves Bama this year to go penn St., he may well get a third at three different schools.

This has NOTHING TO DO with the best coach at LSU.
You can give all the credit you want to Saban for Miles' success but that doesn't line up with the facts. Saban didn't leave the LSU without talent; Miles has taken that talent to a whole new level.

Some people are good at building things and some are good at taking what's there and making it bigger and better. That's how life works.

he's got a strong argument. and probably is.

but i will have to say Paul dietzel.

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Dieztel and Saban also share the fact that they left LSU when they didn't have to. Speaks to character and commitment. Les didn't leave when he ought to have (for his own personal fulfillment). That also speaks to his character and commitment - gives him bonus points, in my mind.

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Again, you make solid points.

I, like so many others, was totally pissed when Dietzel left...it didn't make sense; it din't make sense until I saw the interview with Dietzel before the 2003 BCSCG. He was asked that question: Why did you leave when you had a championship caliber team? His answer was that he couldn't turn down the opportunity to coach at Army because he felt that it was his duty as a citizen to contribute to the country.

Might sound lame now, but we can't forget that he left right after the Korean war and only a little over a decade after WWII. I guess I have to assume he was telling the truth.

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settle down...Les is the only LSU coach to inherit National Championship caliber players.

Nick built it. Therefore, he gets my vote for "greatest" ever. Harder to 'build' than to 'maintain'

And yes, Les has done an outstanding job. I would make him the highest paid in the nation. He's worth every cent.

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Any how would you know this little factoid?

Not saying, I know either, but I would guess it's different for every coach. Look at Saban, obviously he is a genius when it comes to instantly reviving college football programs, but it seems he runs out of gas after about 4 years. Miles on the other hand is slow and steady.

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Look at Saban, obviously he is a genius when it comes to instantly reviving college football programs, but it seems he runs out of gas after about 4 yea

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(Next stop - Penn State, shhhhhhhh - it's a secret)

He's certainly on track to be, but, you can't exactly grant him such a status until his tenure at LSU is over.

If he goes undefeated and wins the ship he will be the best without a doubt.

Arnsparger was pretty good, he didn't stay long. But Les has always been a good coach no matter what the Mauxrons say.

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Arnsparger was pretty good,

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September through November. He stunk it up in some bowl games, I tell you.