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re: Can someone explain the Good things Alleva has done for LSU as AD?
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:13 pm to ColaTiger
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:13 pm to ColaTiger
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Before you make your knee jerk judgements about Joe Alleva
Ain't nothing knee jerk about the criticism of Alleva.
Duke Lacross is all that needs to be said.
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:20 pm to T
quote:They have so much of campus roped off now, there is much less available parking. This is a major factor in the traffic issues you get funneled to a few locations rather than all the roped off areas.
The parking situation has been a major fail
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:21 pm to Rouge
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best false statement about lsu sports for years
perhaps he's not his BBQ buddy, but that isn't even the point. Laval was a horrible hire.
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Nevermind that bertman was not AD for that hire
whoops. Still, his body of work as an AD was mediocre at best.
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College sports is a business. Track loses tons of money. We now pay lady's hoops team lots of cash for a money draining program.
Wow. So we should hire the cheapest coach in every mid-major at the expense of losing? It's hilarious how many posters on here insert the "we have a track team?" comment in one thread and bitch about how we don't win championships in all of our sports in another.
Now I agree that Caldwell needed to earn that salary before she was hired and so far she hasn't earned it. However, it looks like they are about to turn the corner. Also, we could pay all of our coaches just about whatever we wanted if our school wasn't so grossly underfunded on the academic side and needed our AD's support
This post was edited on 11/3/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:31 pm to Smoke Dinardo
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he has only done alot of "annoying" things like parking
Alleva is the AD, not the parking decision maker
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:41 pm to Les
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hiring Johnny Jones
Joe Alleva gets absolutely zero credit for this. Collis and Dale etc. told him back with TJ that TJ was going to be a bad fit and he needed to give jones a call because he would relate to this region. Alleva being an idiot decided that hiring a west coast guy from a high academic environment was the best fit for LSU. After the massive failure it turned out to be collis got the press involved and rightfully so. If you heard Allevas announcement at Johnnys presser it reeks of someone who thinks they know better saying this is what you asked for here it is.
Guess what Joe. We here in Louisiana do know whats better for LSU.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:45 pm to vl100butch
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he may be doing a superb job with everything else, but football is the goose that lays the golden eggs....and the LSU football fanbase is getting pissed off...
That's because LSU fans are the most entitled fans in college football.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:53 pm to ColaTiger
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That's because LSU fans are the most entitled fans in college football.
LSU fans may be a lot of things, but entitled is not one of them. I think you've got us confused with our delusional neighbors 2 states over to the East.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:57 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Well Alabama has higher ticket prices, so they must hate their fans too!!! 
Posted on 11/3/13 at 4:02 pm to Adam Banks
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Collis and Dale etc. told him back with TJ that TJ was going to be a bad fit and he needed to give jones a call because he would relate to this region. Alleva being an idiot decided that hiring a west coast guy from a high academic environment was the best fit for LSU
No AD with zero ties to LSU was gonna hire a coach with a mediocre recorde from N. Texas because he "related to the region". Even though Johnny has worked out so far, I would not want to see an AD cave into a political machine for hires.
Keep in mind the that the same CT2 you mentioned eariler advised LSU to consider Tommy freaking Amaker for the job at the time. Screw. That.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 4:45 pm to Smoke Dinardo
Mens bball is back
Posted on 11/3/13 at 4:53 pm to TigerB8
quote:You can blame both the Athletic Department and School of Music for that fiasco, but it can be corrected.
Who's responsible for the band going to shite? Just a serious question. Seems like the admins decided there should be less importance/emphasis placed on the band to save money or something.
They jointly decided to create a "Director of Athletic Bands" AFTER "Associate Director of Bands" Linda Moorhouse (Who btw, has a Ph.D) had been hired to replace the retired "Director of Bands" Frank Wickes.
Moorhouse wanted to be in charge of both the marching AND symphonic aspects of the band department. As has always been the case within the Music School, the Tiger Band Director always did Symphonic Band and Wind Ensemble too.
With the creation of this new "Director of Athletic Bands" that would no longer be the case. That's where the entire controversey started in the Spring of 2011. Linda wanted to do both and she was told no, so she left for a position at the University of Illinois in the late Spring/Early Summer of 2011.
It was too late to conduct a national search for a "Director of Athletic Bands" so LSU had really no choice but to appoint long time "Assistant Director of Bands" Roy King to the position on an interim basis, in kind of an emergency basis.
The big mistake was made in NOT opening the search back up after the 2011 season conclusion for a really experienced and qualified marching band director that met ALL the criteria for being the Director of one of the top college marching bands in the country. Huge mistake in not doing that and you're seeing the results on the field right now.
TGBFTL has gradually declined with each season since RK took over, not so much in Pre-Game, but mainly in the halftime show design. No imagination. No creativity. NO entertainment value at all. The sound of the band is regressing as well. Not quite as loud and powerful.
If you correlate this to football terms, it would be like what happened with former LSU running backs coach Larry Porter. He was a pretty good RB coach and recruiter, but in no way qualified to be the head football coach at the University of Memphis. That is exactly what's going on with TGBFTL right now. RK was perfectly fine as an assistant behind the scenes, but does not posses the necessary qualities you want for the "Director of Athletic Bands" at Louisiana State University. The halftime presentaions are devolving into an embarrassing situation. RK is in way over his head and you see the direct results of that hire on the field at halftime. This is an unacceptable situation that needs to be corrected.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 4:57 pm to Smoke Dinardo
Well, he single-handedly killed the LSU basketball fanbase by simultaneously moving the student section behind the goal, raising ticket and concessions prices, and hiring a shite coach who promptly drove the team off of a cliff. This caused attendance to go from filling the Deaf Dome up at least 3/4 every game to turning it into a study hall.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 5:06 pm to BRAVEHEART
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TGBFTL has gradually declined with each season since RK took over, not so much in Pre-Game, but mainly in the halftime show design. No imagination. No creativity. NO entertainment value at all. The sound of the band is regressing as well. Not quite as loud and powerful.
I'm no marching band expert, but this is obvious to me and I've heard comments about it from others. Our band used to be the best in the SEC, hands down. I'm not sure that's the case anymore. Both Auburn and USCe went out and hired new directors with ties to LSU and their bands have improved tremendously. That said, our band is handcuffed by the LSU administration. They are told when they can play, what they can play, that they can't play over PA ads or when LSU is trotting some booster out on the field for his/her "Tiger Stadium salute."
Posted on 11/3/13 at 5:06 pm to kingbob
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This caused attendance to go from filling the Deaf Dome up at least 3/4 every game to turning it into a study hall.
Did you just wake up from a fricking coma that occurred in the 80's? Our attendance was abysmal long before these adjustments.
Not to mention what's already been pointed out: Trent Johnson looked to be a very nice hire at the time
Posted on 11/3/13 at 5:12 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
LOL
When Saban played the Miami card on Skip, look what happened ....
Imagine Miles at ARK - Sure he would have turned them around in Year One like Sumlin did at AtM and Gus is doing at AU
When Saban played the Miami card on Skip, look what happened ....
Imagine Miles at ARK - Sure he would have turned them around in Year One like Sumlin did at AtM and Gus is doing at AU
Posted on 11/3/13 at 5:17 pm to tigerbait2010
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Not to mention what's already been pointed out: Trent Johnson looked to be a very nice hire at the time
Whoopty frickin doo. Just because it looked good on paper is not a free pass for a failure of a coaching higher.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 5:20 pm to gismap
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Whoopty frickin doo. Just because it looked good on paper is not a free pass for a failure of a coaching higher.
Every AD makes bad hires at times. My God Oliver Luck is probably going to get the Texas AD position, and he hired Holgerson who has run WVU's football program into mediocrity. shite happens, and he's fixed the issue
This post was edited on 11/3/13 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/3/13 at 6:16 pm to tigerbait2010
I had much more of a problem with the fact that they moved the students behind the goal and raised ticket and concession prices at the same time than the Trent Johnson hire. The year before that, the lower bowl was mostly full every game outside of winter break. The next year, it was a ghost town and remained that way until mid-season last year.
Posted on 11/3/13 at 7:09 pm to Smoke Dinardo
$5 million a year to academics. No other program can do that. Especially with BJ Bobby Jindal and the boys slashing the education budget, LSU needs that $5mil
Posted on 11/3/13 at 7:47 pm to kbol34
I'll give him credit for making this happen:
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