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Can Elite Level Be Maintained?
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:08 pm
If a program chose players in the same way that Chick-Fil-A chooses employees would that school fail to produce a great team consistently. Obviously LSU has sacrificed high character for great talent in order to build the recent teams. Miles teams were loaded with NFL talent that was stupid and lacked discipline. Some grew up and made a career but many a player wasted his natural talent.
Would improved focus, cooperation and effort overcome those teams, such as FlaSt or Bama, who take low character guys and baby them through a college career?
Would improved focus, cooperation and effort overcome those teams, such as FlaSt or Bama, who take low character guys and baby them through a college career?
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Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:10 pm to 75503Tiger
Terrible post and comparison to Chick-Fil-A.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:11 pm to 75503Tiger
Awful thread
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:11 pm to 75503Tiger
Miles came as close to doing so as anyone in college football history. We ran him outta town.
ETA: answered your thread title before I read your post. My answer still stands. Miles maintained LSU at a level that few to nobody in the history of college football ever has.
ETA: answered your thread title before I read your post. My answer still stands. Miles maintained LSU at a level that few to nobody in the history of college football ever has.
This post was edited on 4/29/18 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:13 pm to 75503Tiger
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:21 pm to LSUstephen17
The first thing you must do when building any team - business, social, athletic, etc - is choose people who will agree to follow rules but more importantly that they will follow the appointed leader. This is what CFA does very well. The product is mediocre but the service and cleanliness support the success. Football players could be selected in a similar manner
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:24 pm to 75503Tiger
Can Elite Level Be Regained?
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:32 pm to TNTigerman
Admin please delete...it wouldn't be awful to require basic subject verb agreement for posts over 20 words...
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:42 pm to 75503Tiger
Posted on 4/29/18 at 9:59 pm to LSUGoo
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Admin please delete...it wouldn't be awful to require basic subject verb agreement for posts over 20 words...
Sorry there professor, I be hoping you would forgive me for not meeting your high journalistic implantations. I wasnt knowing you was here for fine writing.
Hey genius, how about try to debunk my post instead of grading my writing.
Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:00 pm to 75503Tiger
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The product is mediocre but the service and cleanliness support the success. Football players could be selected in a similar manner
So in this analogy we should build a mediocre team that doesn’t go to the NFL Early and don’t get a lot of penalties, and don’t smoke weed?
Posted on 4/29/18 at 10:19 pm to SammyTiger
I want to know if a program can win and be considered elite while upholding standards. The difference between schools like Stanford, Vandy or Duke and my vision of a school is that the academic expectation would be lower but the strength of character expectation would be equivalent. No, the product would have to be better but the delivery would be the same as CFA
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:56 am to 75503Tiger
First of all, I'll say character matters. It can become too large in significance, but it must be considered. I do not think Les let it get too big of a consideration.
Les' recruiting problem was breadth and holes. Especially after Cam came in, then Frank left.. One (Cam) was not a counterweight at all, not one bit. The other (Frank) was an excellent counterweight and was both judicious and up front with his opinions.
By 'breadth' I mean we always seemed to have not just a weak group, but in desperate measures with some group- quality and depth and personnel decisions. First it was LBs, then DL, then OL. IMHO, after Frank left we recruited for rankings and not a program. Or just enough of that mindset crept in, with no one able to correct Miles.
Having said that, we haven't been elite since 2013 (record setting offense places 3rd in the division with a transfer QB). Hell, we're not even dominant. As bad as Arky was they never thought playing us was a probable loss (much less guaranteed). Ole Miss never feared us; MSST beats us at our place with Dak and Welter was never even taken out of the game (our backup QB, Harris, leads a furious comeback over the starter, Jennings, and he sucked too).
All the evidence has been on the field for a while. Masked by some inconsistent but sometimes spectacular defense and record setting performances by Fournette/Guice.
"Elite" and "inconsistent" are two words that do not go together, ever.
Les' recruiting problem was breadth and holes. Especially after Cam came in, then Frank left.. One (Cam) was not a counterweight at all, not one bit. The other (Frank) was an excellent counterweight and was both judicious and up front with his opinions.
By 'breadth' I mean we always seemed to have not just a weak group, but in desperate measures with some group- quality and depth and personnel decisions. First it was LBs, then DL, then OL. IMHO, after Frank left we recruited for rankings and not a program. Or just enough of that mindset crept in, with no one able to correct Miles.
Having said that, we haven't been elite since 2013 (record setting offense places 3rd in the division with a transfer QB). Hell, we're not even dominant. As bad as Arky was they never thought playing us was a probable loss (much less guaranteed). Ole Miss never feared us; MSST beats us at our place with Dak and Welter was never even taken out of the game (our backup QB, Harris, leads a furious comeback over the starter, Jennings, and he sucked too).
All the evidence has been on the field for a while. Masked by some inconsistent but sometimes spectacular defense and record setting performances by Fournette/Guice.
"Elite" and "inconsistent" are two words that do not go together, ever.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:10 am to 75503Tiger
WTF does football have to do with Chick-fil-A? 
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:12 am to 75503Tiger
'Stupid and lacked discipline'.
Wow judging by this post, I'd say YOUR character sucks.
Wow judging by this post, I'd say YOUR character sucks.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:30 am to 75503Tiger
1) Character is very hard to measure in an 18 year old
2) Most coaches believe that they can rehab athletes with character issues once they get them into the program.
3) Comparing a fast food restaurant’s hiring practices to college football recruiting is a bit goofy
2) Most coaches believe that they can rehab athletes with character issues once they get them into the program.
3) Comparing a fast food restaurant’s hiring practices to college football recruiting is a bit goofy
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:09 pm to 75503Tiger
Ask Nick Saban what he thinks about this.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 1:07 pm to Double Down
We haven't been elite or relevant since 2011
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