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Cam Cameron "Air Coryell" Offense philosophy.

Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:15 pm
Posted by IbalLSUfaninVA
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:15 pm
The Coryell offense attacked vertically through seams. The Coryell offense had lower ucompletion percentages

The passing game was based on timing and rhythm, and coaching the system required a lot of repetition.

The Coryell offense is a combination of deep and mid range passing and power running.

] Throwing a deep pass was the first option on each play.[10]


Overall the goal of the Coryell offense is to have at least two downfield, fast wide receivers who adjust to the deep pass very well, combined with a sturdy pocket quarterback

The Coryell offense required more talented players, a passer who could get the ball there, and men who can really run—a lot of them," said Walsh.

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This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 10:18 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:18 pm to
Look at the players he had.

He also never made it to a Super Bowl and couldn't get past the top defenses or bad weather
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38197 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:21 pm to
It sounds great and like a sure fit on paper but the WRs aren't up to par IMO. The offense needs to isolate DBs and let Brandon pick apart the defense by choosing a WR before the play. I think the what would take this offense to the next level is using the TEs consistently and letting them become primary receivers.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:24 pm to
It really is a head scratcher that we came out looking just incredible at Miss St and while LF is still LF the passing game has regressed.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:00 am to
The I-Formation is not a facet of the "Air Coryell" offense. I think you've posted this before. The offense didnt change at all when Cam Cameron came in.

We still weren't sure why the QB's were so incompetent, we assumed it was just an anomaly with Jefferson/Lee, and Mett gave us hope it was, but again, it has continued.

Please Read


This is not the "Air Coryell" offense. Look at the formations.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:02 am to
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He also never made it to a Super Bowl and couldn't get past the top defenses or bad weather


Nick Saban never had a winning record.
Posted by AR_Tiger
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Aug 2014
97 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:07 am to
The routes may be Coryell"ish" but the offensive philosophy is probably not top to bottom. The only issue I really have right now is that we are not running more play action with Harris rolling out of the pocket. The kid provides us with a lot of flexibility but we don't seem to use it as often as we should.
Posted by dagrippa
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:12 am to
quote:

The only issue I really have right now is that we are not running more play action with Harris rolling out of the pocket. The kid provides us with a lot of flexibility but we don't seem to use it as often as we should.


They will absolutely do that in big games. He is very very good doing this.
Posted by dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
68309 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:15 am to
quote:

he I-Formation is not a facet of the "Air Coryell" offense. I think you've posted this before. The offense didnt change at all when Cam Cameron came in. 


um the coryell offense is run out of the pro set, using a fb and TE.
Posted by dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:16 am to
quote:

 also never made it to a Super Bowl and couldn't get past the top defenses or bad weather


you are joking rt? The Dallas cowboys dominated the NFL running that offense.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68309 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:20 am to
I'm reading that, but I just hope you know they lined up with two tes very few times on Saturday. there is a dumb myth about this.

hell UF was lining up with 3 tes against ole miss. The saints bring a 3rd tackle in to help run the ball. But let's just focus on something that is complete bs because it fits your agenda.
Posted by jtran1988
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:21 am to
quote:

He also never made it to a Super Bowl and couldn't get past the top defenses or bad weather


The Ravens used his playbook for the Super Bowl win?
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:57 am to
Regardless of whether Air Coryell is the term for the type of passing game we run or not, it's long past time our coaches come to grips with the reality that it doesn't work and isn't going to work with our personnel.

Our route trees are terrible and our QB is being hamstrung by our OC and/or HC, who could make Tom Brady look awful.
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
Hammond
Member since Jan 2007
2804 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Our route trees are terrible


Please explain this. I would love to hear your expert comments on route trees. Seriously how can a route tree be weak?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15034 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:15 am to
You can never say for sure unless you're in the film room, but I'd bet a lot of money that we are reading deep to short. (this also explains why Jennings kept heaving it deep to Dural last year). That's not going to change at this point in the season; it's not like you can just flip a switch and suddenly become a Bill Walsh style short passing team. You just have to hope that something clicks and the deep passes start connecting.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Please explain this.

Have you ever seen LSU play? Serious question.

If you have and you're too stupid to see the problem then I can't help you.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:20 am to
they had kellen winslow, charlie joiner and john jefferson.

we have Featherstone, edward scissorhands, and jack dundee
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
Hammond
Member since Jan 2007
2804 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Have you ever seen LSU play? Serious question.

If you have and you're too stupid to see the problem then I can't help you.



I've seen LSU play every single game for the last 10 years. I never said there wasn't a problem. I just asked if you could explain how a route tree could be terrible. I'm dead serious. I do not understand how a route tree can be terrible. Our execution of the route tree may not be great but we run every single route imaginable.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10127 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Please explain this. I would love to hear your expert comments on route trees. Seriously how can a route tree be weak?

Gordy Rush said it this morning. The receivers aren't running routes well enough to use the whole route tree.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15034 posts
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Have you ever seen LSU play? Serious question.

If you have and you're too stupid to see the problem then I can't help you.

I think his point is that the statement "the route trees are weak" literally does not make sense in the context of American football. It's the kind of thing someone says because they heard the phrase "route tree" before and assume it makes them know what they're talking about. Maybe you mean "route combinations," which I would disagree with but at least isn't gibberish.
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