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re: caller asks about miles to ole miss

Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48382 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:56 pm to
Miles to the NFL. Book it. He'll start as Passing Game Coordinator for the Patriots and then take over when Bill Belichick retires. Tom Brady is excited about the news.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:20 am to
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Les Miles is a perfect example of refusing to change because you believe you're right versus actual results. We all admire uncompromising men because they're brave. But it is the ability to change and compromise that can make coaches some of the all time greats.


In Miles' case that wasn't stubbornness. That was stupidity. He obviously thought he was smarter than everyone else, but he wasn't, he was more stupid than everyone else, except for Rickdaddy, that dude is the smartest ignoramus in the world.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:21 am to
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utter bull shite. miles has enough legit flaws to bring up with out making shite up


I should have said very heated arguments because that's what they were.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:24 am to
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You are trying to conflate two decisions into one. Firing Miles was unquestionably a good decision. Hiring his replacement was a completely separate decision. Whether it was a good one has nothing whatsoever to do with whether firing Miles was a good one.


Actually, that's just Rickdaddy trying to hijack another thread and turn it into another pissing contest between Coach O and Less Miles because he is obsessed with hating Coach O.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:26 am to
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ole miss is no where near a top level job.


Don't worry Rickdaddy, Ole Miss isn't stupid enough the hire Less Miles.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:15 am to
Dude, don't make finebaums point valid in your post trying defending miles, thats what you just did. You look like a complete fool.
Posted by helomar84
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2017
172 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:55 am to
Game plan and style of play was not the problem. Lack of above average QB play was the problem.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:04 am to
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When you fire a guy who is still winning, you are taking a serious gamble and its only a good decision if the guy you bring in is more successful than the guy you fired.



You still aren't getting it. Those are two separate decisions. Miles wasn't going to change and we weren't going to reach our potential with him, so he needed to go, period. Then, we decided to hire Orgeron, which may or may not turn out to be a good move, but has nothing to do with Miles needing to go.

If you're standing in the path of an oncoming truck, it's a good idea to move out of the way. If you decide to move into the path of an oncoming train, that's not a good idea, but still doesn't mean you should have stayed in the path of the truck.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:11 am to
F Finebum
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20361 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:05 am to
No Les was stubborn. Everyone knows the game changes and you have to adapt but Les refused to do it because he was either stupid or stubborn and I don't think he was stupid.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7077 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:07 am to
It would make no sense for Ole Miss to hire Les Miles. Les Miles took an elite program and led them into irrelevance.

Would be like the ridiculous move South Carolina made hiring Will Muschamp to resurrect their program. He couldn't at Florida, how can he do it at South Carolina?

Sort of like LSU hiring......well.....nm
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:14 pm to
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It's not that big of a gamble


It's a major gamble replacing a winning coach. I dont care if we talking about Les, Mack Brown, Richt, or Fulmer. Like Les or not, but the guy had the highest winning percentage in LSU history and was still winning at 71% in his last three full years which was second best in the SEC.

Again, we are not talking about a coach with losing seasons or not having ranked teams or a 60% full stadium.

And I am not saying Les should have stayed, but this fire and hire are major gambles.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:21 pm to
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People shitting on him smh
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
An hypothetical: there are rumors all over the office, for mths, that you will be fired. Time winds down, your boss calls you in & tells you that you have to change your philosophy or else. You promise to change your philosophy. A few mths later, you still have not changed. Your boss fires you. Is that being stupid or stubborn? Call it what you want, CLM made his own bed.
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
5914 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:53 am to
there are some real knuckleheads on here. oh, i'm an idiot cause I don't know what stubborn means.

please look the word up in your dictionary. it means willfully obstinate.

what I said is that it's beyond miles willful control.
let me give you a golf analogy. you know the worst thing you can do is try to hit the crap out of that golf ball! when you do that, you end up "swinging from the top" and send off some gorgeous slices. you know you shouldn't do it, you make up your mind, and try to exercise masterful control over your will to not swing so hard. instead, as you start that swing, the joy of "power" arises, singing through your whole body, and you swing like hell. you tried your best, you wanted a nice, smooth swing, but you couldn't do it. you were not stubborn. you were out of control.

can any of you eggheads understand that?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:05 am to
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miles lost his job because he was stubborn.

I don't think so


Where you been? His job was saved and yet he did nothing to change for the next year. He was stubborn as a mule!
Posted by jmswp4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
422 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:09 am to
Yep. His "style" produced 114 wins over 11 seasons. What other teams achieved that over a similar period?
Posted by gettin there
La.
Member since Sep 2016
355 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:26 am to
".........God bless, Les. you were a one of a kind......"

Thank goodness.......
Posted by gettin there
La.
Member since Sep 2016
355 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:28 am to
".....Yep. His "style" produced 114 wins over 11 seasons..."........

Just think what that number could have been??????
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:17 pm to
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would have required complex thinking to overhaul the offense and he didn't have it in him


Yeah, damn smart move replacing him with a DL coach.



Well at least if CEO fails it wont be because he refused to make changes.
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