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re: Cade Doughty returns, but is slotted at third base; Thompson to SS
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:28 pm to BigTimer23
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:28 pm to BigTimer23
quote:I am too honestly
so when should I be expecting a reply on that front? Because I am genuinely curious.
I would have worked on it today but I have a job and sometimes I have to work. I’ll try to rewatch games tomorrow. Seriously.
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Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:30 pm to ell_13
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I would have worked on it today but I have a job and sometimes I have to work. I’ll try to rewatch games tomorrow. Seriously.
That’s fair enough too. Okay cool, I’ll be on the look out. And I’ll let you get back to your altercation now lol
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:31 pm to ell_13
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The guy slugging the most and hitting the most HRs getting those HRs with someone on base. I thought you said you wanted Crews batting second? Don’t you have reasons too? Or are you just arguing with me to argue?
But those homeruns don't count because of the competition, and favorable weather. Or does Crews HRs count, and all the others don't? I struggle to keep up with what stats you are allowing to count, and which ones you've thrown out.
I don't care if Crews bats lead off or second. I'm just pointing out that Morgan is already doing what you think Crews should be doing, while Crews has failed in his opportunities.
I'm also not the one making threads and posting every time Crews comes up to bat with nobody on base to point out how correct I think I am.
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:38 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:you’re welcome to argue that crews’ HRs don’t count. I wouldn’t but you do you.
But those homeruns don't count because of the competition, and favorable weather.
quote:Depends on what we are trying to prove and argue. Baseball has lots of stats meaning different things. We use some and ignore others all the time. It’s kind of normal.
I struggle to keep up with what stats you are allowing to count, and which ones you've thrown out.
quote:well that’s new.
I don't care if Crews bats lead off or second.
quote:Well you should imo.
I'm also not the one making threads and posting every time Crews comes up to bat with nobody on base to point out how correct I think I am.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:22 pm to ell_13
quote:I just got to the Oral Roberts series and charted the first 8 pitches. I stopped there and I'll explain why. I'll also keep going but if you remember, it was this game where I made the comment that Dunn is calling too many fastballs thinking he can overpower these bad teams.
I’ll try to rewatch games tomorrow. Seriously.
So far, there is a trend and it's an interesting one. I got about 30 pitches deep into the games or 3 innings whichever I hit first. Here are the takeaways:
Hill and Marceaux throw a ton a FBs first time through the count. In Hills first start, he threw 21 FBs vs 11 Off Speed (mostly CBs). Marceaux threw 22 vs 6 to Nichols. Labas on the other hand gets has been throwing a ton of change ups. In his first start, he threw 17 FBs to 15 OS with an almost even mix of his change vs his slider. This is interesting because I think it's a reaction to Labas only throwing 88-90 whereas Marceaux is 92-94 and Hill is 94-97. It's obvious Dunn is trying to overpower guys. Even Edwards vs ULL threw 22 FB vs 9 OS.
Now to the Oral Roberts game. In the first 10 pitches of the games for Marceaux and Hill, Dunn is only calling 2 OS pitches. The same was taking place vs ORU. Hill threw 7 FBs in those first 8 pitches giving up 4 hits (all vs the FB) and 2 runs. They were aggressive early in counts almost like they knew a bunch of FBs were coming. I knew it was a lot and they were jumping on it, hence my original comment on Dunn calling too much of them vs these teams.
Now, that's not to say I don't think he will mix it up more vs SEC opponents. My point was simply that he thought he could overpower (and not without merit) some of these OOC games with his two studs. I truly think the ORU game doesn't snowball if he calls the game with a better mix.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:43 pm to ell_13
Boom
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:49 pm to ell_13
Felt like the same was true with Fontenot. Granted, Fontenot has been wild at times, but also felt like he wasn't mixing it up enough.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:58 pm to ell_13
quote:
I just got to the Oral Roberts series and charted the first 8 pitches. I stopped there and I'll explain why. I'll also keep going but if you remember, it was this game where I made the comment that Dunn is calling too many fastballs thinking he can overpower these bad teams.
So far, there is a trend and it's an interesting one. I got about 30 pitches deep into the games or 3 innings whichever I hit first. Here are the takeaways:
Hill and Marceaux throw a ton a FBs first time through the count. In Hills first start, he threw 21 FBs vs 11 Off Speed (mostly CBs). Marceaux threw 22 vs 6 to Nichols. Labas on the other hand gets has been throwing a ton of change ups. In his first start, he threw 17 FBs to 15 OS with an almost even mix of his change vs his slider. This is interesting because I think it's a reaction to Labas only throwing 88-90 whereas Marceaux is 92-94 and Hill is 94-97. It's obvious Dunn is trying to overpower guys. Even Edwards vs ULL threw 22 FB vs 9 OS.
Now to the Oral Roberts game. In the first 10 pitches of the games for Marceaux and Hill, Dunn is only calling 2 OS pitches. The same was taking place vs ORU. Hill threw 7 FBs in those first 8 pitches giving up 4 hits (all vs the FB) and 2 runs. They were aggressive early in counts almost like they knew a bunch of FBs were coming. I knew it was a lot and they were jumping on it, hence my original comment on Dunn calling too much of them vs these teams.
Now, that's not to say I don't think he will mix it up more vs SEC opponents. My point was simply that he thought he could overpower (and not without merit) some of these OOC games with his two studs. I truly think the ORU game doesn't snowball if he calls the game with a better mix.
1) I appreciate the film study, that was really interesting. I hope Dunn sees the same thing and gets it fixed.
2) I feel like the main point of this thread was to tell everyone how right you were in the in-game thread.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:58 pm to DRock88
Hill actually seemed to throw in good spots vs ORU. Pitches were down and on corners. They were just ready for all those FBs.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 3:01 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
BigTimer23 asked me to provide data to prove an opinion I had about the pitch calling. That’s all this exercise was. I was wrong and right. Right in that Hill was using too many FBs early in games. But wrong in that it was a consistent approach from Dunn. Labas proved that wrong.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 3:10 pm to ell_13
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Over a season, you are looking at just 6-7 ABs from the leadoff to the 2nd spot.
If Crews is moved to second the same can be said to move Crews from 2nd to 3rd; then from 3rd to 4th. Eventually Crews could be moved to the 9th hole and your argument, if valid, would justify it.
Maybe the best spot for Crews is 2nd or 3rd, but your argument that the extra PAs are meaningless is plainly false.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 3:21 pm to Penrod
quote:Well that would be about 60 ABs so no. That’s not justifiable. We are comparing one or two spots. That’s the change. No more. Not 8 spots. That’s dumb.
Eventually Crews could be moved to the 9th hole and your argument, if valid, would justify it.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 4:05 pm to ell_13
quote:
Well that would be about 60 ABs so no
No, it would only be 6 or 7 ABs to move him from 8 to 9.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:51 pm to ell_13
Article addressing Hill throwing too many fastballs early
Just to supplement what I’ve already said. Looks like PM saw it as a problem too.
Just to supplement what I’ve already said. Looks like PM saw it as a problem too.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:52 pm to ell_13
First pitch tomorrow night better be the big breaker
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:57 pm to deaux
Every game I charted, the first two pitches thrown were FBs.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:59 pm to ell_13
Of course they were and I would hazard a guess that that is very close to the norm around the country. But I do understand the issue with getting predictable early on and allowing a team the chance to be aggressive like ORU.
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