re: Burrow & SEC QBs drop rate vs NFL's - CFB Film Room Debunked

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The LSU passing completion percentage ranked 12tb in the SEC.

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This is not a stat 100% correlated to how accurate a QB is. Did you not watch him run for his life this year? Things like that affect completion percentage, and thus his "Accuracy".

When Burrow was kept clean it's hard to argue he wasn't pretty dang accurate.

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Burriw was terribly inaccurate for a large part of the season. You don’t throw for less than 50 percent if you are accurate and timely

He got better. Everyone likes him. He is a great leader

How about you quit throwing his teammates under the bus and accept the fact that he had a whole lot of work to do to get better.

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A) Not sure if you're replying to OP but he was showing that the stats posted yesterday are obviously inaccurate.

B) Burrow wasn't "terribly inaccurate". A combination of drops and running for his life for most of the season led to him having a terrible completion %. After the first 2 games there was another stat that had Burrow at 76% accuracy when you take out drops and throwaways.

C) Saying we had a lot of drops isn't "throwing his teammates under the bus", it's simply showing that there's more to stats than the number itself. Anyone, including the receivers themselves, will tell you they dropped a lot of passes this year; many of them easily catchable. This wasn't a case of them not being able to pull in a one-handed catch, it was dropping passes that hit them in the numbers.

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For whatever reason the ball was not where it needed to be when it needed to be there.

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Like in the stands?

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There is not an excuse that flys when the top producers were throwing for 70 percent.

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Of course there is.

So throwaways accounted for 20% completion rate difference. That is like 6-7 a game. And it only makes a difference in this comparison if in fact the other QBs never threw it away.

Joes issues, throw aways, drops, bad OL play at times are not unique to LSU. Just about every QB in the league/NCAA faced some if not all of the same issues. Yet by almost every metric his numbers are way down on the list.

In the long line of bad QB play, objective measures would say that early on in the year JB was outperformed by just about every starter we have had here since QB play started stinking.

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Joes issues, throw aways, drops, bad OL play at times are not unique to LSU. Just about every QB in the league/NCAA faced some if not all of the same issues. Yet by almost every metric his numbers are way down on the list.

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You keep repeating this diatribe and again, you're wrong. There can be vast differences in factors OUTSIDE the QBs play that can heavily influence how the QB plays and can actually vary greatly.

Yes, some OLs might be pretty equal, our was among the worst in CFB in pass protection, significantly worse in fact than teams like Florida and Alabama. Our OL sack rate per S&P+ was DOUBLE that of Florida's. You dont think that is a major variable in how the QB might play in terms of accuracy?

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This is not a stat 100% correlated to how accurate a QB is. Did you not watch him run for his life this year? Things like that affect completion percentage, and thus his "Accuracy

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He was innaccurate too. The guy went 50% against UGA, zero TDs, and barely completed a 20yard pass. People act like he was God in that game. He wasn't very good. And that was the norm at that point. He was better his last two games.

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The central point is discredited when you unknowingly compare the stat you are trying to refute with a completely different stat. Do better.

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Yes the metrics are different (but still relevant). CFB is still a hack amateur site. Garbage stats.

Example:
CFB went around the Ohio State boards as a source for passing stats for a couple seasons.. CFB’s numbers claimed Parris Campbell had about the worst Drop Rate in the Big Ten (Pure BS) – Know-nothing Buckeye "fans" ridiculed Campbell on the basis of the CFB stats.

Guess what. The CFB stats were dead wrong. And, Mel Kiper and Walter Football both have Campbell as the #2 WR Draft pick for 2019.

People are confusing "accuracy" with "completion percentage". Two different things. The WR drops were awful for most of the season (and no, nobody who follows the passing game gives 2 shits what CFB says about it)

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After the first 2 games there was another stat that had Burrow at 76% accuracy when you take out drops and throwaways.

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OK then do the same for the rest of SEC and where would he place?
I'm not even saying Joe was inaccurate, as many things can affect Comp%, especially scheme, sync with WRs, different levels of pass D, etc, etc, but the data doesn't support a huge amount of drops compared to rest of SEC measured with same metric.

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I think one of his biggest knocks is that he is sometimes too conservative with the ball. You see better QBs throw there man open or throw the ball where only their man can catch it. Burrow had a tendency to hold the ball unless his WR had a step on the DB. I'd like to see us use guys like Sullivan in the red zone and throw the ball up to them and let them make plays.

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I agree that the passing game is too conservative.

And to that point, it seemed disturbing to me that coach E has a $25,000 bonus for limiting offensive turnovers. There needs to be a certain level of calculated risk in a aggressive passing game. This bonus seems to put a damper on that risk-taking.

Nola.com

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Ensminger earns an extra $25,000 in incentive pay if LSU’s offense is ranked in the Top-3 in the SEC in any of the following categories: scoring offense, red zone offense, third down conversions, turnovers or total offense.

LSU was in the Top-3 in the conference in red zone offense and turnovers lost, equaling to a $50,000 bonus.

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