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re: Brian Kelly will be fine and needs time
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:40 pm to Phillytiger9
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:40 pm to Phillytiger9
Kelly doesn’t even agree… he’s the one who said 3 years.
Portal and NIL changes rebuilding. It expedites it.
He’s not our guy. He’s a mid ceiling mid floor, stable hire.
Portal and NIL changes rebuilding. It expedites it.
He’s not our guy. He’s a mid ceiling mid floor, stable hire.
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:41 pm to Phillytiger9
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Some people are complaining about DB play? We have the #2 and #8 CBs in the country coming in along with a few safeties in the top 30
What if I told you that we currently have the #3 and #12 safeties nationally starting on our defense. The #21 nationally ranked CB. We had the #9 ranked CB in 2021 and 2022 then he transferred.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:45 pm to Phillytiger9
These are tired excuses. Kelly is checked out and out of touch with the program. In this current iteration of college football you don’t need three years to build a playoff caliber team.
He was asleep at the wheel during the first portal window last year and from all the chatter that’s coming out now he isn’t exactly a ‘first one in the building, last one out the building’ type coach. We have major systemic issues and I don’t see them getting fixed unless there’s some major accountability conversations and movement in the offseason.
He was asleep at the wheel during the first portal window last year and from all the chatter that’s coming out now he isn’t exactly a ‘first one in the building, last one out the building’ type coach. We have major systemic issues and I don’t see them getting fixed unless there’s some major accountability conversations and movement in the offseason.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:51 pm to Ebridg3
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You kidding me? Coaches that have done a better job as far as the direction of their program?
Cugnatti
Beamer
Kiffin
Heupel
Sarkisian
DeBoer
Elko
That's mostly just SEC. Doesn't even include, Lanning and other big name coaches.
BK lost to freaking Riley this year and Norvell twice. PRIME is going to sniff the playoffs before us.
Yall better wake up.
This list tells me you're an emotional, reactionary fan. Most of this makes no logical sense.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:55 pm to SidewalkTiger
With the portal, the period to hold a coach accountable for his personnel is no longer 3 or 4 yrs.
Lane Kiffin has shown how quickly one can acquire elite or near elite talent in the portal.
However, to do so requires EFFORT.
Lane Kiffin has shown how quickly one can acquire elite or near elite talent in the portal.
However, to do so requires EFFORT.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:56 pm to MetArl15
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Sarkisian and Lanning for sure. Huepel is certainly better right now. I’m sure there are more I’m not remembering.
Lanning took over a much better situation.
Sark has been at Texas for 4 years and is just now hitting his stride, he hasn't even won a bowl game there yet.
Heupel is very comparable to Kelly, I'm not sure they're in a "better situation." They went 9-4 in year 3.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:58 pm to nitwit
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Lane Kiffin has shown how quickly one can acquire elite or near elite talent in the portal.
However, to do so requires EFFORT.
He has 2 losses this year and has been at Ole Miss 5 seasons.
We're freaking out about 3 losses in year 3.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:59 pm to Phillytiger9
Just pay 60 million buyout, get roster gutted and lose recruiting class - that’s should be the ticket - we can become Auburn. Offer Curt 10 year 120 million and we should be good. LOL
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
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This list tells me you're an emotional, reactionary fan. Most of this makes no logical sense.
There's plenty of data to support my statement. Wheres yours?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Sark has been at Texas for 4 years and is just now hitting his stride, he hasn't even won a bowl game there yet.
Dude went to playoffs last year.
Beat Bama and is top 5 in the country. Man you are the one not being objective.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:07 pm to Ebridg3
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Dude went to playoffs last year.
Beat Bama and is top 5 in the country. Man you are the one not being objective.
2023 LSU probably makes the playoff if they had been in the Big XII
Sark has a .688 win percentage at Texas, Kelly has a .722 win percentage at LSU
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:08 pm to Ebridg3
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There's plenty of data to support my statement. Wheres yours?
Okay. Let's do it.
You said Beamer has been better than Kelly.
What is your argument? Present your data.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
i don't think people are "freaking out about three losses in year three".
i think people are looking at this roster and seeing two more losses, maybe three. They see what the OL, WR and QB position look like next year. They see a very young and inexperienced defense next year.
They see a program that doesn't much like relying on the portal.
They see a program that is not progressing at an acceptable rate for a $100 million coach.
i think people are looking at this roster and seeing two more losses, maybe three. They see what the OL, WR and QB position look like next year. They see a very young and inexperienced defense next year.
They see a program that doesn't much like relying on the portal.
They see a program that is not progressing at an acceptable rate for a $100 million coach.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:20 pm to nitwit
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i think people are looking at this roster and seeing two more losses, maybe three.
This place is known for its overreactions. After the loss to USC, people here said we were going 6-6. After the Ole Miss win, people were ready to buy playoff tickets.
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They see what the OL, WR and QB position look like next year. They see a very young and inexperienced defense next year.
Impossible to judge any of this, we don't know what will happen in the portal.
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They see a program that doesn't much like relying on the portal.
LSU has brought in a ton of portal players, I'm not sure where this false narrative started.
Our entire receiver group is basically portal players.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:27 pm to SidewalkTiger
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2023 LSU probably makes the playoff if they had been in the Big XII
Sark has a .688 win percentage at Texas, Kelly has a .722 win percentage at LSU
Context less data.
We would have never beaten Texas last year as we lost to Bama and they beat them on the road by 2 scores.
South Carolina would have thrashed us heads up had their starting qb not gotten hurt, and they still almost beat us. They did turn around and beat Texas A&M by a significant margin the week after Texas A&M humiliated us. Then again, you know all of this. You just have an agenda.
Beamer has done more with less at South Carolina than Kelly has. They'd be a touchdown favorite over us right now at a neutral site. We are exposed.
Just like your sark comment. What does his winning percentage have to do with the fact that last year he beat Bama and went to the playoffs and this year, he is in our conference and is top 5 in the country and heavily favored to end up in SEC title game and playoffs. You can cherry pick data all you want, but at the end of the day, today, he's doing better. In my opinion the winning percentage thing hurts you're statement, because yeah, Kelly has come here and not improved at all since year 1, whereas Sark clearly had a lot of cleaning up to do.
You're also comparing a meaningless sit out bowl win for us vs a playoff loss for him. Disingenuous to say the least.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:28 pm to nitwit
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They see a program that doesn't much like relying on the portal.
Transfer Portal Class Rankings:
2022 - #3
2023 - #4
2024 - #43
Recruiting Class Rankings:
2022 - #12
2023 - #6
2024 - #7
I think we just had some bad luck in the portal, this year, with schools like Ole Miss going all in on 2024 season and throwing big money around at some of the same targets.
Remains to be seen if it'll payoff for Ole Miss, this year, and going forward.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:30 pm to Ebridg3
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You're also comparing a meaningless sit out bowl win for us vs a playoff loss for him. Disingenuous to say the least.
All that matters is championships and until any of those coaches you listed win one, they are in the same boat as Brian Kelly.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Sark has been at Texas for 4 years and is just now hitting his stride, he hasn't even won a bowl game there yet.
Lol what's more impressive, making a 4 team playoff in year 3 or winning the ReliaQuest Bowl?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:37 pm to Phillytiger9
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Brian Kelly will be fine and needs time
frick this bullshite
Indiana has a 1st year HC, OC, DC complete staff.
10-0, 7-0 in conference
Ranked in the top 10
It's possible for a team in year 1 and compete.
frick it, hire their entire staff
Posted on 11/12/24 at 1:38 pm to Ebridg3
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Context less data.
We would have never beaten Texas last year as we lost to Bama and they beat them on the road by 2 scores.
South Carolina would have thrashed us heads up had their starting qb not gotten hurt, and they still almost beat us. They did turn around and beat Texas A&M by a significant margin the week after Texas A&M humiliated us. Then again, you know all of this. You just have an agenda.
So your entire argument is based on transitive property.
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Beamer has done more with less at South Carolina than Kelly has. They'd be a touchdown favorite over us right now at a neutral site. We are exposed.
South Carolina would not be favored at a neutral site, that's an asinine statement.
It's also interesting that you've completely left out the transitive property for this part of your narrative.
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Just like your sark comment. What does his winning percentage have to do with the fact that last year he beat Bama and went to the playoffs and this year, he is in our conference and is top 5 in the country and heavily favored to end up in SEC title game and playoffs. You can cherry pick data all you want, but at the end of the day, today, he's doing better.
As I stated before, you're clearly an emotional and reactionary person. You're only looking at today, as evidenced by your statements.
Also, using your transitive property argument, Kelly beat Kiffin who thumped Smart who thumped Sark.
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