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re: Brennan vs Johnson Part II: The Tape
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:58 pm to Scoob
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:58 pm to Scoob
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With those numbers, and with Brennan being the returning senior (and Johnson being still a freshman due to covid), why is there any hesitation at all to just name Brennan?
Maybe he has already been named but not publicly or maybe a good fall camp battle is not a bad thing for either. They will both be ready to compete. We are in much better shape than we were last year.
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:30 am to MacReady25
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Max had another two rushing TD's to add to his total (12 vs 11)
No he didn't. 10 total tds. I included the rushing
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As for Yds Per Play, this can be very "situational"
No.. that's literally every play. It's the opposite of situational
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:08 am to Vacherie Saint
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LSUs RPO plays under Brady were almost never QB runs, and there was very little zone read. T
I never said they were QB runs. But the ability of burrow to keep the ball on read plays gave defenses more to think about on the post snap RPO plays that LSU ran. A handoff or a pass or burrow keeping. You throw out one of those options with a Brennan. Not always about the result, but about the threat.
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so Brady learned his offense philosophy from the one season as a grad assistant with Joe fricking Moorhead? Must be why ESPN called Brady's offense "Drew Brees 101". They must have meant "Joe Moorehead 101". You are making shite up at this point.
LSU’s offense under Brady was exclusively shot gun.
Saints under Payton is 50/50 shotgun / under center just about always
LSU post snap RPO. Saints much more post snap.
The QB runs by LSU.
These are all college concepts, not Saints stuff.
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Bama, UNC, Fla, BYU and others fielded top 10 offenses in the NCAA last year without running QBs
Elite teams
List out all the playoff teams & their QB. Again, you are wrong. You chances of high level success comes with mobility
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 5:31 am
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:32 am to Lester Earl
I just wanted to let y’all know it will be Max Johnson as the starter.
To add as to why is very simple: Max Johnson has won the team. He is very much a similar mindset(football, passion, leadership) to Burrow. He lives, eats, and sleeps football.
Will he become the super fast processor that Burrow was? I have no idea. But I know what he has put on tape, displayed on the field and in the locker room has me excited as well as the dudes who have to believe they can beat anybody with the guy under center.
To add as to why is very simple: Max Johnson has won the team. He is very much a similar mindset(football, passion, leadership) to Burrow. He lives, eats, and sleeps football.
Will he become the super fast processor that Burrow was? I have no idea. But I know what he has put on tape, displayed on the field and in the locker room has me excited as well as the dudes who have to believe they can beat anybody with the guy under center.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 5:34 am
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:42 am to Lester Earl
quote:Elite teams incorporate defense. We are talking about Qbs and offense in here. Try and keep up
Elite teams
List out all the playoff teams & their QB. Again, you are wrong.
And 4 of the top 10 offenses last year had non mobile QBs, including the ELITE national title winning Bama and their #1 offense
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:33 am to lsupride87
I don’t usually wish & pray on outliers, but if I do I at least acknowledge the odds are heavily against it.
It would usually be backed up on something I see. I wouldn’t just keep naming other outliers, as if that is proving some type of point
It would usually be backed up on something I see. I wouldn’t just keep naming other outliers, as if that is proving some type of point
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:39 am to Lester Earl
4/10 of the top offenses is outliers? 
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:41 am to lsupride87
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4/10 of the top offenses is outliers?
When you are dealing with this clown, yes. Anything that doesn't fit into his narrative is either an outlier, or a statistic that doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:44 am to lsupride87
I care about what the elites are doing. Not North Carolina or Kent St.
7-8 years worth of CFB playoffs & like 3 out of every 4 QB are mobile threats.
If you think Myles Brennan is that dude go on and say it
7-8 years worth of CFB playoffs & like 3 out of every 4 QB are mobile threats.
If you think Myles Brennan is that dude go on and say it
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:48 am to Hold That Tiger 10
In your opinion, which players could you plug into any offense & succeed: Trevor Lawrence/Justin Fields, or Mac Jones?
Max Jones is fun when you have eight 1st Rd skill position players.
Max Jones is fun when you have eight 1st Rd skill position players.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:10 am to BayouCowboy
Brennan was done in game one. Has a 8 yard head start on a fricking nose tackle and gets run down. The dude is slow as molasses and not athletic at all.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:24 am to Lester Earl
you are arguing in circles.
Burrow having a little running ability does not mean that there's some meaningful block of plays that cannot be used with a QB that moves in the pocket well, but cant hurt you with his legs. It just doesn't, and as I've said 3 times now - Burrow is the ONLY semi-mobile QB Brady has ever started. Max's legs are OK at best, anyway. You, in particular, overrate TF out of Max's scrambling ability.
Its been said over and over again that Brady's offense is the college adaptation of the Saints offense. The Saints go under center at times because they have a guy named Alvin Kamara in the backfield and one of the deepest playbooks in football. You are the only retard giving Joe fricking Moorhead credit for it.
Lastly, elite teams run whatever the frick they want. I showed you that with the Bama example. Even Ok won with guys like Mayfield. There is zero connection between zone read concepts and championship caliber football. I also showed you that about half of the top offenses last year rung up 5-600 yards per game with pocket QBs. This isnt an argument for Max over Brennan. The better passer will get that job and everyone seems to understand that but you.
You are twisting to get your narratives to fit. Its OK to like Max. I like Max too. Just say you think he's the guy and stop gaslighitng the frick out of everyone with all of this stupid bullshite.
Burrow having a little running ability does not mean that there's some meaningful block of plays that cannot be used with a QB that moves in the pocket well, but cant hurt you with his legs. It just doesn't, and as I've said 3 times now - Burrow is the ONLY semi-mobile QB Brady has ever started. Max's legs are OK at best, anyway. You, in particular, overrate TF out of Max's scrambling ability.
Its been said over and over again that Brady's offense is the college adaptation of the Saints offense. The Saints go under center at times because they have a guy named Alvin Kamara in the backfield and one of the deepest playbooks in football. You are the only retard giving Joe fricking Moorhead credit for it.
Lastly, elite teams run whatever the frick they want. I showed you that with the Bama example. Even Ok won with guys like Mayfield. There is zero connection between zone read concepts and championship caliber football. I also showed you that about half of the top offenses last year rung up 5-600 yards per game with pocket QBs. This isnt an argument for Max over Brennan. The better passer will get that job and everyone seems to understand that but you.
You are twisting to get your narratives to fit. Its OK to like Max. I like Max too. Just say you think he's the guy and stop gaslighitng the frick out of everyone with all of this stupid bullshite.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:25 am to Scoob
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Why isn't he already the announced guy?
Because it's not anybody else's business yet.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:26 am to BayouCowboy
If Johnson is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman.
If Brennan is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman and is the first player chosen in the NFL draft.
Think what either scenario would do for QB recruiting at LSU.
If Brennan is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman and is the first player chosen in the NFL draft.
Think what either scenario would do for QB recruiting at LSU.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:29 am to Lester Earl
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In your opinion, which players could you plug into any offense & succeed: Trevor Lawrence/Justin Fields, or Mac Jones?
Another stupid point because that's not how football works. You recruit guys to fit your system. Many schools recruit mobile QBs to fit their system and many don't. LSU does NOT run a system that requires a scrambling quarterback and they arent recruiting guys like that, so it really doesn't matter what Ohio State does. Either way, if I said Mac Jones probably has the best pro career of the three you listed, I doubt Id get many arguments.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:29 am to Gus007
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If Johnson is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman.
If Brennan is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman and is the first player chosen in the NFL draft.
Think what either scenario would do for QB recruiting at LSU.
Now we're talking!
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:41 am to Vacherie Saint
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Burrow having a little running ability does not mean that there's some meaningful block of plays that cannot be used with a QB that moves in the pocket well,
So clueless
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Its been said over and over again that Brady's offense is the college adaptation of the Saints offense.
Oh, it’s a college adaptation of it, now?
Yea, no shite. Adapted from Brady’s time in college. The frick your think he drew it out of thin air?
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The Saints go under center at times because they have a guy named Alvin Kamara in the backfield and one of the deepest playbooks in football.
Right, right. So the playbooks are different.. right, right. Now you are understanding
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Even Ok won with guys like Mayfield.
Mayfield was mobile
Jesus dude 2015: 634 yds
2016: 310 yds
2017: 506 yards
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:43 am to Gus007
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If Johnson is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman. If Brennan is the starter, I hope he wins the Heisman and is the first player chosen in the NFL draft. Think what either scenario would do for QB recruiting at LSU.
No doubt. Like I said in the OP, I think we can win with either and I'm not schilling for one over the other.
Myles gives you a player that can stretch the field and drive the ball on outside routes and hit tight windows due to arm strength.
Max gives you a player that you can roll the pocket more, gain yardage with his feet and has shown nice touch on throws.
It's on Peetz to decide who puts us in the best position to win and tailor the O to their skill sets. I'm happy we have two very capable QBs. Beats the old days.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 7:44 am
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:46 am to Vacherie Saint
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LSU does NOT run a system that requires a scrambling quarterback and they arent recruiting guys like tha
Huh?
Now they do. Every QB they’ve recruited since Brennan have been mobile, athletic, off plane throwers. Except for TJ.
Max
Nussmeier
Howard
Arch, Holstein, Rickie Collins
Les Miles is not walking thru that door, bubba. Get used to it
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:48 am to BayouCowboy
If anyone thinks we lost games because of Brennan, they were either not watching or they don’t know football. The defense lost those games.
Look folks- we have 2 starters and we’re blessed. I like them both but O has a tough situation here. Both guys are going to play. It’s just a matter of when and who they play against. It’s going to be incumbent on coaches to find the best guy for each situation.
Bank on both guys playing though.
Look folks- we have 2 starters and we’re blessed. I like them both but O has a tough situation here. Both guys are going to play. It’s just a matter of when and who they play against. It’s going to be incumbent on coaches to find the best guy for each situation.
Bank on both guys playing though.
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