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As far as why I’m not concerned with Greedy getting snapped in half is bc on every play someone is NOT trying to do that.
Having a 240# RB running full steam in an open field could be worse than a Dlineman rambling for 5-yards to the QB.
If the QB sees the guy coming he does not have to stand there and take a direct hit. If a CB lets a RB breeze by him or misses a lot of tackles he will be on the bench. Donte Jackson had 32 solo tackles last season and he weighed 175 pounds according to the LSU website.
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Brennan needs the strength to make a play with a DL/LB grabbing at him. Looking at him, I don’t think he has the strength to do that.
A CB skill set is much much different. Speed and quickness are paramount. CB doesn’t need to be able to make a play with a 250+ lb person hanging on to him.
A CB skill set is much much different. Speed and quickness are paramount. CB doesn’t need to be able to make a play with a 250+ lb person hanging on to him.
This post was edited on 8/17 at 11:01 am
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by boxcarbarney on 8/17/18 at 10:59 am to STEVED00
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some people just have a hard time gaining weight.
Time to break out the 70s weightlifter diet; gallons of whole milk, aminos, and cake batter.
C'mon Ree. I have seen you get bashed quite a bit on here because you are the posi to the negi, and while I think most of your posts do bring some factual information, you can not defend that Brennan's body will be able to endure a season of play in the SEC, nor compare him to other position players. While he has acquired some muscle mass, he could use a bit of bulk on his frame to withstand the barrage of hits he will undergo. I present one Danny Etling who seemed to suffer every week and he had 20lbs in listed weight over Brennan, if in fact Brennan is close to 194lbs.
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I present one Danny Etling who seemed to suffer every week and he had 20lbs in listed weight over Brennan, if in fact Brennan is close to 194lbs.
I just don't see how a guy weighing 20 pounds more is a sign of him not getting hurt and the guy who weighs less getting killed.
How does the extra weight make tendons, bones, cartilage, etc stronger? Do the lighter guys get hit harder?
Etling had back problems. I don't think it had anything to do with the extra weight or lack thereof.
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by Tigerinevergreen on 8/17/18 at 11:36 am to Triple Bogey
Wtf dude. You don't know that. E was a pretty good sec QB in his day, and has been a coach for 30+ years. You people are pathetic. Give E a chance.
Brennan played in six games last season. He was sacked 3 times. I don't remember the trainers having to bring multiple stretchers for all of his body parts. I don't even remember his limping off the field.
Maybe he is so skinny the big guys can't get a good hit on him.
Maybe he is so skinny the big guys can't get a good hit on him.
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by Tiger Ree on 8/17/18 at 11:48 am to Tigerinevergreen
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Wtf dude. You don't know that. E was a pretty good sec QB in his day, and has been a coach for 30+ years. You people are pathetic. Give E a chance.
the idiots don't know shite about football and go out of their way to prove it.
"In 1990, how behind was Georgia’s passing offense?
“We were running the same offense as Herschel Walker did,” said Garrison Hearst, a Heisman Trophy finalist in 1992 while playing in Ensminger’s Georgia offense.
Ensminger called many of the plays during that three-year stint in Athens, Hearst said, but he’s mostly known for his work with Zeier. The quarterback set every SEC passing record before he left the school, and Ensminger and McDuffie revamped Georgia’s run-heavy scheme to one that led the SEC in passing.
Goff won 46 games as UGA’s head coach in seven seasons, and 19 of them came in 1991 and 1992 — Ensminger’s first two years on staff.
Zeier and Hearst describe a system most similar to the West Coast offense, a scheme Bill Walsh popularized in the 1980s with the San Francisco 49ers. Zeier’s passing progression was short to deep, he said. Formations evolved from an I-formation look into a three- and four-receiver set, with one back. Georgia heavily used the shotgun, too, and the run game was built on zone blocking.
“I got to Frisco and realized I was running a pro scheme in college,” said Hearst, who spent five seasons with the 49ers."
Formations to plan, people to enlist: A look into Steve Ensminger's plans now that he's LSU's OC
Did you miss the part where Danny Etling had multiple weeks where he was nursing fatigue or did you purposely skim over that? What was the extent of his playing time, at what point during the game did he come in and against what teams? You're presenting an argument to promote your case, but are leaving out important details. I know the answer to the questions I posed as I know you do, as well. Deep down you gotta know his "body" is not ready.
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How does the extra weight make tendons, bones, cartilage, etc stronger? Do the lighter guys get hit harder?
Etling had back problems. I don't think it had anything to do with the extra weight or lack thereof.
These athletes are not fat, they are toned and lean. To answer your question, more muscle mass does make tendons, cartilage, etc stronger, but you have to know this. In addition, he did have back pain and guess what, had surgery and adopted a tough training and rehab regime, by goes what, adding weight through muscle mass, which in turn made his recovery quicker.
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re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by SammyTiger on 8/17/18 at 11:52 am to Tiger Ree
Right but we aren’t running an offense from
the early 90s.
Saying E is progressive and modern because he was progressive and modern 25 years ago when he was like 32 makes no sense.
Plus telling me he ran a west coast in the 90s doesn’t jive with him saying we’re gonna stick to Butrows strengths in 2018.
I doubt Burrows strength are running a west coast offense.
the early 90s.
Saying E is progressive and modern because he was progressive and modern 25 years ago when he was like 32 makes no sense.
Plus telling me he ran a west coast in the 90s doesn’t jive with him saying we’re gonna stick to Butrows strengths in 2018.
I doubt Burrows strength are running a west coast offense.
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Did you miss the part where Danny Etling had multiple weeks where he was nursing fatigue or did you purposely skim over that?
You must have missed where I mentioned that Danny Etling had back problems. I am pretty sure he had them before he arrived at LSU.
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What was the extent of his playing time, at what point during the game did he come in and against what teams?
Why do QB's only get snapped in half during certain quarters of a game? Do some teams have Dlinemen that try to snap a QB in half and others don't?
He played in the Bama game and is credited with going 3 of 5 for 18 yards and with rushing 3 times for <14> and a long of 3. They had to carry him off the field on a stretcher multiple times but he is still breathing.
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You're presenting an argument to promote your case, but are leaving out important details
I can't include every detail. Which ones do you want to know?
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Deep down you gotta know his "body" is not ready.
I don't buy this and think that if it isn't ready now there is a good chance it will never be ready.
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by SammyTiger on 8/17/18 at 12:02 pm to jmon
I think brennan’s Weight is over blown.
He isn’t going to be running the ball and taking hits like that. QBs doesn’t get lit up that often
He isn’t going to be running the ball and taking hits like that. QBs doesn’t get lit up that often
Snapped in half is just a figure of speech. My point was that physically I don’t think Brennan can hold up for a full SEC season or strong enough to make plays under duress by an SEC DL/LB. He just doesn’t pass the eye test on what a SEC QB should look like physically.
This is my concern as well.
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I don't buy this and think that if it isn't ready now there is a good chance it will never be ready.
This is my concern as well.
This post was edited on 8/17 at 12:07 pm
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by Tigerinevergreen on 8/17/18 at 12:06 pm to SammyTiger
Yet you would rather just bash E than give the former tiger QB the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by SammyTiger on 8/17/18 at 12:08 pm to Tigerinevergreen
I think The difference between you and me is that it’s been proven otherwise.
I think The Alabama game in 2016 was atrocious. I think The fact that he hasn’t been running an offense full time since 1998 proves he can’t do this at the level we need.
I think We’ll kick arse vs shitty defenses, but can he beat good ones?
He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt when he has shown otherwise. He needs to change the narrative. I dont Just blindly ignore people’s history.
I think The Alabama game in 2016 was atrocious. I think The fact that he hasn’t been running an offense full time since 1998 proves he can’t do this at the level we need.
I think We’ll kick arse vs shitty defenses, but can he beat good ones?
He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt when he has shown otherwise. He needs to change the narrative. I dont Just blindly ignore people’s history.
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by Tiger Ree on 8/17/18 at 12:10 pm to SammyTiger
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He isn’t going to be running the ball and taking hits like that. QBs doesn’t get lit up that often
If he was an interior Dlineman or an Olineman I could see the weight being a problem.
I don't think you have to weigh a lot to hand the ball off to a RB or throw it to a receiver.
I also don't see why weighing less is some kind of guarantee a QB will be injured.
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by Tigerinevergreen on 8/17/18 at 12:11 pm to SammyTiger
Holy shite. Man there really are some truly special people on this site. Thank you for saving me the time of future debates with you. There will be no need. Carry on Sammy.
Actually gonna bookmark this. Sammy profoundly claims E cannot do it because it is proven by fact he hasn't been an OC in 20 years....so therefore E is a failure. Not just your opinion, but you state it as fact. Bookmarked.
Actually gonna bookmark this. Sammy profoundly claims E cannot do it because it is proven by fact he hasn't been an OC in 20 years....so therefore E is a failure. Not just your opinion, but you state it as fact. Bookmarked.
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re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by SportTiger1 on 8/17/18 at 12:12 pm to mtheob17
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Brennan played the “get better vs get bitter” approach and that will pay off if Burrow gets hurt and/or when he he graduates.
Sure seems like with this story as well as brennans dad being okay with redshirting, they are committed to getting better through any means necessary.
good for him
re: Brennan has kind of attached himself to Burrow’s hip and is learning from himPosted by BayouBengals18 on 8/17/18 at 12:12 pm to SammyTiger
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think brennan’s Weight is over blown. He isn’t going to be running the ball and taking hits like that. QBs doesn’t get lit up that often
Agree. If you watch his highlights from last year, when he escapes the pocket he looks up to see how far he can get, then slides. Moving in the pocket, and having that awareness of when it’s collapsing helps also.
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