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re: Braun for Yorke
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:10 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:10 pm to ProjectP2294
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Just putting the ball in play
yes errors happen but so do double plays.
walking is awesome. putting the ball weakly in play is bad. on balance you want walks, as many as you can get.
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:11 pm to josh336
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Okay, so you are just intentionally being obtuse
your scenario you invented, its very specific. man on third, no outs or one out.
do want Aaron judge up in the scenario? he strikes out a lot. pinch hit for him?
he often leads the league in K.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:13 pm to jamarr
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your scenario you invented, its very specific. man on third, no outs or one out.
do want Aaron judge up in the scenario? he strikes out a lot. pinch hit for him?
he often leads the league in K.
You claim the situation he invented is very specific but countered with a situation even more specific (an Aaron Judge plate appearance). And something that literally cannot happen with LSU.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:19 pm to jamarr
I gave you another scenario with no one on base, thats pretty damn common.
How about 2nd and 3rd and 1 out or 0 outs? Plenty of situations i can come up with where its better to put it in play
How about 2nd and 3rd and 1 out or 0 outs? Plenty of situations i can come up with where its better to put it in play
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:19 pm to ProjectP2294
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You claim the situation he invented is very specific but countered with a situation even more specific
I know it was an excellent analogy. both Yorke and judge get on base a lot and strike out a lot.
the important bit is they don't make many outs. in the situation with the man at third, do you want a pop out? a weak grounder to third and out at the plate? NO you want anything that doesn't make an out. a walk is aweseom in the scenario. now you are 1st and 3rd and about to put up a crooked number. the pitcher is more tired and frustrated. its a good position to be in.
hitters that don't make outs are the best kid of hitters.
Ks do not matter. ppower and OBP do (OPS)
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:21 pm to josh336
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How about 2nd and 3rd and 1 out or 0 outs? Plenty of situations i can come up with where its better to put it in play
in exactly all of these situations, a walk is awesome.
not a pop-up. not a grounder to third.
hell, a HBP is also great. as long as you don't make an out.
a K is better than a double play.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:28 pm to TigahFan85
I never said bench him...
All I said is I'm surprised more pitchers don't get aggressive with him and that his glove in the field appears lazy at times. He gets on base but he also strikes out without moving the bat off his shoulders quite consistently too. I would say he does this too much.
If you've watched him play these past few weeks you don't think he needs more effort there? Just because he's low on errors compared to the players you're showing doesn't mean he's without fault at contributing those errors. Sometimes they're tough plays to make so it's on the other player with the error. That doesn't mean he's lacking effort too. Some of the errors could've absolutely been on him. It's a team sport...
And yes, the entire defense needs to get better. They're bad here. Really bad.
All I said is I'm surprised more pitchers don't get aggressive with him and that his glove in the field appears lazy at times. He gets on base but he also strikes out without moving the bat off his shoulders quite consistently too. I would say he does this too much.
If you've watched him play these past few weeks you don't think he needs more effort there? Just because he's low on errors compared to the players you're showing doesn't mean he's without fault at contributing those errors. Sometimes they're tough plays to make so it's on the other player with the error. That doesn't mean he's lacking effort too. Some of the errors could've absolutely been on him. It's a team sport...
And yes, the entire defense needs to get better. They're bad here. Really bad.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:43 pm to whatiknowsofar
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an average 1st baseman
Generous assessment.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:50 pm to jamarr
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yes they do. the walks are huge. walks score runs, walks tire out pitchers. walks are offense. if you lead the team in OBP you are a massive contributor.
If you are hitting HRs, walks are the best thing ever. They wear on a pitcher, they put even more mental pressure on them, and they become free runs. We hit some HRs last week and it wasn’t just Jake Brown. Hopefully that becomes a trend.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:51 pm to jamarr
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how those outs are made is not particularly relevant.
False. A ball in play even if not a hit can advance runners, produce RBIs, creates the potential for errors, etc. A ball in play is almost always better than a strikeout.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:03 pm to ifyoubuildit
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False. A ball in play even if not a hit can advance runners, produce RBIs, creates the potential for errors, etc.
the math on this has been done endlessly. Ks DO NOT MATTER
balls in play create double plays which are utter catastrophe. Ks force the pitcher to throw the ball, and tire out.
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a player that gets on base at a high rate is a good player. if the outs he makes are Ks that's not something to worry about. baseball knows this which is why we have far more power and Ks today. players are accepting that taking big swings is worth it to mash dongs, even if it means more Ks than groundouts.
don't even look at batter K rate, it does not matter. look at OPS and WOBA and be happy if its good.
repeat: MVP level offense monsters like judge routinely lead the league in K. its ok. "he strikes out too much" is only a valid critique if he makes too many outs. Yorke does not. he gets on base.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:12 pm to jamarr
The problem with your take is that it is based on studies done at the pro level where errors are never made and the range of fielders is much greater. You are trying to apply it to the college game with alot more errors and alot less range
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:16 pm to josh336
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The problem with your take is that it is based on studies done at the pro level where errors are never made and the range of fielders is much greater. You are trying to apply it to the college game with alot more errors and alot less range
the fielding differences are not big enough to matter. you shouldn't be putting the ball weakly in play and hoping for an error. you should be mashing it hard as hell and knocking dents in the fence and the intimidator, even if you K a little more. as long as you are still taking walks, seeing the zone well, laying off bad pitches and not grounding them into DP, its fine.
just get on base, completely forget K rate. just forget it entirely.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:20 pm to TigahFan85
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So stats don't lie. He is top at .983 Field % with 3 total errors. If I recall they could or are throwing errors across the diamond. Do not remember any from fielding maybe 1.
That doesn't encompass everything though. Like yesterday he didn't catch the relay throw on a double play. Technically, that doesn't go down as an error, but it's a ball that should have been caught.
I'm not saying bench him btw.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:23 pm to TigerCub
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That doesn't encompass everything though. Like yesterday he didn't catch the relay throw on a double play.
Are you talking about the double play that he started and Sherrin missed while trying to cover 1st?
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:24 pm to TigahFan85
No I'm taking about one early in the game on a ball hit to third.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:26 pm to Lester Earl
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Yorke vs Kentucky
3-9
4 BB
5 Runs scored
.538 OBP
Cool, now post the rest of the slumping team's numbers from the series that was against a team loaded with future Cy Young candidates apparently.
Can't suck for 2 months and look at 3 games and say he's a guy
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:36 pm to TigerCub
Ok ok I just went back and watched it. 3rd inning ground ball to 3rd dardar short hopped him at 1st. Do you know how many throws he has saved Milam on like that or worst that is keeping Milam at 1.000 fielding %.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:38 pm to AlecRock23
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Why does Yorke take the brunt of the blame every weekend?
Because they can only bitch about Yeskie and JJ so much in one weekend.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:42 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Can't suck for 2 months and look at 3 games and say he's a guy
4th in BA
4th in R's
4th in H's
5th in RBI's
3rd/4th in Slugging %
1st in BB
2nd in ob%
But yet the sucks????
So everyone that ranks below him in those stats should be playing in DII is what you are saying? Before you say yes, how about you look at the people that are below him in those stats.
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