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re: Brandon Harris is not the answer at QB. Does Les not see this?

Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:18 am to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16101 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:18 am to
quote:

any QB can be taught to throw with good technique


but can he be taught to be accurate. Many NBA players, despite intense great coaching and many years of practice, never learn to shoot a jump shot or foul shot accurately. (EXample 1A: Shaq)
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16101 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:21 am to
Was Jennings more moldable than Harris? Guess we'll never find out. What about Eitling or McMillion? Can they actually be worse? Are Harris other attributes, his running mainly, worth the trade off for his terrible accuracy?

Is there a system Harris could be effective in? If not him, who?
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32376 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

but can he be taught to be accurate. Many NBA players, despite intense great coaching and many years of practice, never learn to shoot a jump shot or foul shot accurately. (EXample 1A: Shaq)


Good technique at least gives the kid a shot a being a more accurate passer. Without it, he's still going to be all over the place.
Posted by mglsu21
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2012
1277 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Dude STFU.

You whine like a little bitch, then berate other people's opinions?

Coach Miles is staying for now, don't make it any worse on everyone else.


I haven't berated anybody. I did a facepalm at somebody wanting McMillan to play. I also stated my opinions on the QB position over Miles tenure.

If anybody is berating it is you for telling me to STFU. Sorry you cannot handle criticism of Miles.

And a huge LOL for my message board opinion making it worse on everyone else.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:25 am to
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That really was the only option this year. What else can he do?


Whose fault was it that Harris was his only option?
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10308 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:36 am to
I'm sure he does but what the hell is he going to do about. Cam and him put there eggs in the Brandon Basket. He is JJ all over without the attitude. Les needs to get of the damn mobile QB shite and find one who can hit the broad side of a barn.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16352 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:36 am to
You can see Harris' mechanics are off. He's throwing just with his wrist and does not get a good base or turn his hips on his throws. That can be corrected, if he's properly coached. I wonder if Cam is used to working with pro QBs and is no getting on the level with mechanics of a young developing QB.

We need an OC that's on the sideline that can calm a QB down and get them re-focussed. Harris showed he has the tools during the 1st half of the season.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:49 am to
In his presser last night, when asked about an overhaul for the offense, Les responded with "the engine(LM7)is fine". He did seem to agree that the passing game needed to be fixed, but, with that statement, basically promised more of the same. His response has been consistent, so expect more of the same. Booger had it right last night when he reported that the issues were still there.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76682 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:51 am to
He has seen this for 2 years.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:52 am to
Harris turns into the next Brandon Allen
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33963 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:53 am to
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On what planet was JJ better than Lee in 2011? Two unfortunate passes in Tuscaloosa ruined that season for us by allowing JJ to become the starter. And the offense instantly turned to shite.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:54 am to
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there's really no other option


There were reports in fall camp that Etling looked better than Harris and Jennings.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:56 am to
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Two unfortunate passes in Tuscaloosa ruined


That game rattled Lee and it appears that the game in Tuscaloosa this year did the same to Harris
Posted by Rocky4LSU
Covington
Member since Dec 2007
534 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:18 am to
BH needs to improve his decision making process. When he tries to hurry, bad things happen. Panic and failure are his worst enemies.
I think the coaches should enroll him in a 7 on 7 league that plays every day for 3 months, record the results and critique him weekly. he needs 100's of reps, not the 20 or so 3 days a week at practice.
Baseball sends their players to summer leagues for just that reason. As an ex catcher, I can promise accuracy can improve with reps, reps and more reps. Catchers have to make a baseball travel 121 feet and come within 9 sq. ft. with similar equipment that a football player has. All in less than 4 seconds. This is what he needs.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16101 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:26 am to
quote:

BH needs to improve his decision making process. When he tries to hurry, bad things happen. Panic and failure are his worst enemies. I think the coaches should enroll him in a 7 on 7 league that plays every day for 3 months, record the results and critique him weekly. he needs 100's of reps, not the 20 or so 3 days a week at practice


I agree with all that
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64459 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:30 am to
quote:

1) LM's recruiting of the QB position has been atrocious.

2) His development of the QBs once they arrive has been even worse. Don't give me CamCam excuses because it's the same shite with every new OC.

3) Our offensive game plan during games is even worse than #1 and #2. Either run the ball or throw it 40 yards down the field. Nothing in between.


Don't worry, buddy. We have this great qb committed to us in this recruiting class. He will be our future LSU qb. His name is...hold on let me find it....ummm... wait a minute, are you telling me that we don't have a single qb committed in this recruiting class? Awesome job, Les.

Here's to 4 more years of awful qb play at LSU.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25794 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:31 am to
My sources say that Miles actually planted QB seeds in the greenhouse and we are waiting for them to mature...
Posted by SiriusBraveFan
Member since Nov 2014
720 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:39 am to
With Les at the helm I'm not sure if it would matter much but would you all rather an OC that's a college coach as opposed to an NFL guy?
Posted by kdbroom
Member since Feb 2012
160 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I think Harris' regression is a confidence problem


I have a different interpretation. Harris' regression is a "lack of development" problem. Early in the season, when we had opportunities to let him throw the ball (and develop as a QB), we were far too focused on running the ball 75% of the time and letting LF run up his numbers. When Bama had the game plan and the athletes to stuff LF and our running game, we essentially threw a first-year starter (with little experience throwing the ball) into the breach. Of course he couldn't win that game on his own, given his lack of throwing experience. Then, Arkansas and Ole Miss jumped out to early leads, while we were doubling down on our running game, and those games got out of hand. As a result, we again had to resort to relying on Harris' arm to keep us in the game. It didn't work in those games either. He showed the same ineffectiveness in the A&M game, but our defense kept it close so that the running game got us over the hump.

I expect the exact same scenario next year. We'll mostly run the ball early in the season, and then Bama will stuff us once again. The only problem is...with road games against Wisconsin, Florida, and Auburn prior to the Bama game, I highly doubt we'll be undefeated when Bama comes to Tiger Stadium.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 9:44 am
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