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Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:34 am to PiscesTiger
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Your time is now...admit that you were wrong and the bashers were right
As usual, you idiots still don't get it. Your so called Bashers never had the power to fire Brady; only the administration has that power. The only power the Bashers had over the past 5 or 6 years was to Bash Brady and scare off potential talent from the program--job well done.
The Bashers didn't care what effect they had on the recruiting program during Brady's tenure, and they didn't care if we ever won championships. Actually, they were happy when we lost.
If Brady was coaching this season, and he had gotten the team to over achieve this year, as he had many times in the past with a lot younger and less experienced players than we have this year, the Bashers would still be saying he needs to win in the first round of the NCAA or be fired.
Thank god you idots are not saying that about Johnson. We have met the enemy and they are us.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:35 am to TigerBite
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JB should have been gone after the Wisconsin debacle
That is insane. That comment is as dumb of a statement as anything you may accuse the 'Brady apologists' for.
I'm glad Brady is gone. I thought he should have been let go after the UAB fiasco in 2005. But to cling to that Wisconsin game in 2000 in Brady's 3rd year losing in the Sweet 16 wanting him fired for that is just pure insanity. Evidently you know very,very little about college basketball.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:38 am to Nick Papagorgio
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Final Four team in '06. Those guys played together since middle school, and they won in spite of Brady IMHO.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:43 am to I-59 Tiger
Brady's personality cost him. He was just too much of an unpleasant dick. He was also an awful promoter of the program and it's players. I remember when Clark Kellogg said that there wasn't a player in the nation like Tyrus Thomas during that UCONN game, Brady's response was that he didn't think Clark Kellogg has seen all the players in the nation. He didn't respond with "Tyrus is something else" or "He's a heck of an athlete people should be excited to watch", he pretty much said "if you look hard enough I'm sure you'll find another guy like him".
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:45 am to ligerbait
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Brady's personality cost him
Bingo ! Its hard to believe a mostly 'football' school like LSU would dismiss a guy 23 months after a Final Four.
'Big John' has no one to blame but himself.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:51 am to I-59 Tiger
quote:So we hired a guy who smiles less than Brady!
Bingo ! Its hard to believe a mostly 'football' school like LSU would dismiss a guy 23 months after a Final Four.
'Big John' has no one to blame but himself.
God, I hope TJ never goes 8-8 in the SEC; he may be murdered.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:01 am to xiv
quote:Yeah, but can he verbally abuse players the way Brady did? That's the real measure of a coach.
So we hired a guy who smiles less than Brady!
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:03 am to Ice Cold
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but can he verbally abuse players the way Brady did
I'm sure he can and probably has.But I'm guessing he picks and chooses a little more wisely when to go off the deep end with no return than our former coach.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:04 am to xiv
This is the first team that I can remember (been a fan since the late 70's) that you can actually see a semblance of offensive and defensive game plans and the players actually playing sound team basketball. I have no need to bash Brady nor Dale Brown, who was a great program builder but not the greatest at x's & o's.
I challenge any long time Tiger basketball fan to dispute this fact.
I challenge any long time Tiger basketball fan to dispute this fact.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:49 am to Bad Cat
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As usual, you idiots still don't get it. Your so called Bashers never had the power to fire Brady; only the administration has that power. The only power the Bashers had over the past 5 or 6 years was to Bash Brady and scare off potential talent from the program--job well done.
I was never a basher nor an apologist, but are you saying that no coach should ever be called for to be fired, simply b/c the fans don't themselves have the power to do it?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 1:20 pm to Ice Cold
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First of all, Brady didn't have a scheme. He had some talented players and a prayer. Second of all, he lost more than a few games in which the Tigers led big and/or late. It is one of the great discredits to his tenure that these losses occurred.
Gotcha.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:10 pm to PiscesTiger
Trent can coach but he can't recruit as well as Brady. Bad year comming after 5 of the first 8 players are gone this year.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:13 pm to Teacher
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Trent can coach but he can't recruit as well as Brady. Bad year comming after 5 of the first 8 players are gone this year.
Jesus Christ, you spew this non-sense quite a bit. He recruited damn well at both Stanford and Nevada (which are tougher places to recruit compared to LSU). How long has he been on the LSU job? You obviously don't follow recruiting that much and it's a lot more complex than you are making it sound. The top prospects in this region have been recruited for YEARS before TJ even arrived on LSU's campus.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:14 pm to Stromile Swift
plus La talent is down this year in hoops
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:14 pm to Teacher
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Teacher
let's hope you arent, at least when it comes to basketball, TJ has been here for less than a year, you expect him to land huge recruits right away? Who did Brady bring in in his 1 recruiting class?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:18 pm to josh336
I've addressed this same claim of his in several other threads, but he never responds. For all I know, Trent could turn out to be the worst recruiter in the history of LSU basketball. He did a fine job at both Nevada and Stanford, and he hasn't had enough time at LSU to form any kind of opinion on the subject. I do know he went to Oregon and lured one of the nation's top shooting guards away from Louisville.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:27 pm to Stromile Swift
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Trent can coach but he can't recruit as well as Brady
I would say that Butch recruited well and developed relationships with the players, coaches, etc. That is why he was probably the highest paid assistant coach in the SEC, if I am correct.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:28 pm to Stromile Swift
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Oregon and lured one of the nation's top shooting guards away from Louisville.
I doubt he knows we got this kid or what his name is
Posted on 2/12/09 at 3:47 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:On that, he is absolutely correct. Brady could have had the character of Saint Jude and the personality of Huey Long, but with his track record of failure LSU fans would have absolutely hated his guts. By the same token, being exactly the man he was but with 9 winning seasons, 6 SEC Champoinships, 3 Final Fours and two National Championships, and he would have been a beloved legendary hero at LSU.
Bad Cat also thinks that we'll hate any coach as long as he loses...never did he stop to think that our qualms and dislikes about Brady went much further than winning/losing.
It is almost all about the wins and losses when it comes to fan appreciation. And there may be no limit to how much assholeness can be forgiven with enough winning. Remember how Little Nicky --- with the same character that LSU fans revile now -- was so beloved when he was winning championships here? Remember when DiNardo was the absolute toast of the town, just a couple of years before he was practically run out of it on a rail? Remember how quickly people who loved Dale became disgusted with him when his teams started losing consistently?
Brady had limited (at best) public relations skills. But he was (and is) hated because he couldn't win games, not because he was an arse.
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