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re: Blaming the fans for reacting negatively to poor decision making
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:15 am to madddoggydawg
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:15 am to madddoggydawg
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Alabama didn't get good because of fans' expectations.
There isn't one thing that makes Alabama "good," and there isn't one thing that drove them to "get good."
It's a great program, that involves fans, fans expectations, fan money and donations, quality leadership at multiple levels, everyone buying into what is going on, etc. Saying that fan expectations and how that translate to support, money, and belief in a system, does play a part and a big one. Anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish.
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:18 am to Genestealer55
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while having done virtually nothing to make a fan base excited about the future success of LSU football.
Well, if you kept up with LSU football more than just during the season you wouldn't say this. The O-line, D-line, linebackers, WR's and QB position could and should be much better next year. If you can't get excited about it, that is your problem.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:18 am to p&g
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As you said It's been one year. Majority of these same people were ok with Os effort after les was fired.
He’s getting a second year. So he can change opinions, but I think We’ve seen enough to form an opinion on O.
Also, most people weren’t satisfied about with the job he did last year to make him
HC.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:23 am to p&g
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The arraogance to which these morons base their opinions on how bad things are and are going to be is what irks me.
It's what makes me laugh. Just like the analyst thread I linked. They all exploded then realized THEY were the idiots and not Eaux. It was funny to see them cause the melt then have to melt away into silence because of their idiotic melt. Good stuff !!!
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As you said It's been one year.
Majority of these same people were ok with Os effort after les was fired.
Not to mention Steve's offensive production.
The idiotic lunatic fringe are going to bitch no matter what. It's their mantra and what they live for. Don't let them affect your outlook in any way or you will eventually become as much of a miserable human being as they are presently.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:35 am
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:25 am to Tiger Ree
Speaking of hypotheticals. You stated that people shouldn't bitch about things that haven't happened yet, but you wanna spread joy about a bunch of hypotheticals related to guys with little to no experience. Slightly hypocritical, wouldn't you say? Name a positive that Orgeron has brought to LSU that has improved the program or has made them more relevant in the championship picture. Most rational people will go by recurrent history, rather than opinionated hypotheticals based on our personal preferences.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:26 am to Tiger Ree
How will QB be better? Please explain. Also, what about RB? CB?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
The Alabama difference is 2 coaches bear Bryant and saban numb nuts!
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:29 am to kengel2
Tennessee seemed to overreact and it got their AD fired and possible Hc hire nixed
I think LSU is handling this as well as any fan base would with O as HC
I think LSU is handling this as well as any fan base would with O as HC
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:29 am to kengel2
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Try not over reacting like a bunch of women.
Quit bitching about people bitching. Start some positive threads explaining what's so great about Orgeron's qualities. The only "positivity" I've seen from the Orgeron fan club is something along the lines of, he's the coach so shut up and take it.
Or a bunch of other twisted, cherry picked reasoning similar to what the Miles fan club used to do.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:30 am to Abe1961
So coaches matter?
Not just fan base moral?
Not just fan base moral?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:31 am to Jack Daniel
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Proof is when Orgeron was hired at LSU, they were comparing him to Dabo and Saban.
Another thing so funny about the fringe. They make shite up as they go along and state is as fact.
Lunatic Fringe says that no other college has hired someone who wasn't a coordinator as a head coach and been successful.
Normal poster points out that Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Bobby Bowden among others were not coordinators and won championships.
Lunatic Fringe cries "you're comparing Eaux to Dabo and Saban"?
Lunatic Fringe states that no coach has ever lost to a Troy before and gone on to become successful.
Normal poster points out that not only did Saban lose to UAB in HIS 1ST YEAR at LSU he also lost to ULM in his 1ST YEAR at Alabama and gone on to be very successful.
Lunatic Fringe cries "you're comparing Eaux to Dabo and Saban"?
Good stuff to be read on this board.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:34 am to SammyTiger
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Also, most people weren’t satisfied about with the job he did last year to make him HC.
That was 2016. Idiots are still crying about it today. Too late
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:34 am to Tiger Ree
You’re making stuff up.
No one said never because people know Dabo wasn’t a coordinator.
They brought up those points because O resume is shite, and generally when you hire a shite resume you get shite results.
Dabo is an outlier.
Saban is an outlier.
Generally losing to inferior opponents means you aren’t a good coach.
No one said never because people know Dabo wasn’t a coordinator.
They brought up those points because O resume is shite, and generally when you hire a shite resume you get shite results.
Dabo is an outlier.
Saban is an outlier.
Generally losing to inferior opponents means you aren’t a good coach.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
The problem is there are some posters on this board that are Orgeron fans above all else. LSU is second fiddle to them.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:40 am to Tiger Ree
You’re right it is too late.
Now we just have a shite 9-4 season to complain about.
This year was not good enough. O can’t go 9-4 too many more times before he gets the ax.
Now we just have a shite 9-4 season to complain about.
This year was not good enough. O can’t go 9-4 too many more times before he gets the ax.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:42 am to Tiger Ree
Saban had a history of winning and adopted a shitty team. Not the case for Orgeron. I have come to the conclusion that there are obviously several groups that will never see eye to eye. Some are okay with complete mediocrity (9-4 with embarrassing losses), some expect competitive records (10-2 and in championship conversation), and a very small amount will bitch if LSU isn't 15-0. I think that the largest group would be satisfied with a 10-2 regular season record and at least be near the playoff conversation. Orgeron has shown no signs that he is capable of leading a team to 10-2, and any other opinion is wishful thinking. He has never been close to 10-2 and that is a fact, like it or not. If he goes 10-2 next year, then I will shut up about him. If he goes 8-4, will you?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:43 am to A1tiger
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Speaking of hypotheticals. You stated that people shouldn't bitch about things that haven't happened yet, but you wanna spread joy about a bunch of hypotheticals related to guys with little to no experience. Slightly hypocritical, wouldn't you say? Name a positive that Orgeron has brought to LSU that has improved the program or has made them more relevant in the championship picture. Most rational people will go by recurrent history, rather than opinionated hypotheticals based on our personal preferences.
You should be arrested for assault...cause I think you just damaged Tiger Ree’s poor wittle brain even more than it already was..
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:44 am to A1tiger
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but you wanna spread joy about a bunch of hypotheticals related to guys with little to no experience.
I am discussing LSU football players.
I am not crying about LSU football players and how bad they may become in the future and having to make shite up to do so.
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Name a positive that Orgeron has brought to LSU that has improved the program
Just recently, hired a safeties coach to allow Raymond to concentrate on CB's. Hired Kevin Faulk to a staff position so that he can help the players and also be able to recruit on campus. Hired an O-line coach who has coached in the SEC and gave up the fewest sacks in the conference in his only year and in the PAC12 at USC and gave up the 2nd fewest sacks in the NATION without one senior player.
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Name a positive that Orgeron has brought to LSU that has improved the program or has made them more relevant in the championship picture
Same as above but could go back even further.
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Most rational people will go by recurrent history, rather than opinionated hypotheticals based on our personal preferences.
Is that the same as saying "idiots melt about the future over made up shite that probably won't even happen"?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:45 am to kengel2
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Try not over reacting like a bunch of women.
Oh look. Another misogynist who hates women.
His wife left him for being a loser and a frickup, so he thinks all women are to blame for his failures.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:48 am to Tiger Ree
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Lunatic Fringe says that no other college has hired someone who wasn't a coordinator as a head coach and been successful.
Normal poster points out that Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Bobby Bowden among others were not coordinators and won championships.
Lunatic Fringe cries "you're comparing Eaux to Dabo and Saban"?
You're both insulting people and misquoting a large group of people.
No one says "no other college has hired someone who wasn't a coordinator as a head coach and been successful," people say that no one would hire O after Ole Miss (which is true) and very few schools hire non-coordinators as coaches and that it is not necessarily a smart play based on results.
Please link where more than one random poster actually said that no one hires a coordinator as a head coach.
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Lunatic Fringe states that no coach has ever lost to a Troy before and gone on to become successful.
Normal poster points out that not only did Saban lose to UAB in HIS 1ST YEAR at LSU he also lost to ULM in his 1ST YEAR at Alabama and gone on to be very successful.
Lunatic Fringe cries "you're comparing Eaux to Dabo and Saban"?
Because this is a dumb comparison. And I would hope that you don't double down on this foolishness, because, O must be in the National Champsionship next year, because Kirby did it in year 2. No excuses.
If you want to make dumb comparisons, then let's do this. A coach can lift a team further away than LSU to a title game appearance in 2 seasons. Next year is a complete and utter failure via this comparison if O doesn't make the title game. Complete failure. No excuses.
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