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Beyond 2020: Who has hope for the future of LSU Football?
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:54 am
Look at Coach O's entire resume.
Last year was an outlier. It was a perfect storm of:
Burrow/Brady/Aranda
All 3 are gone.
Where is the hope for the future of LSU football?
Last year was an outlier. It was a perfect storm of:
Burrow/Brady/Aranda
All 3 are gone.
Where is the hope for the future of LSU football?
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:00 am to GeismarGeauxer
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Look at Coach O's entire resume.
Includes the greatest season in college football history
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Burrow/Brady/Aranda
A QB he went and found that no one else wanted, and one of those was a coach he hired...which took serious vision
Has he failed as a program leader this year...YES. Will he ever replicate 2019..I don't know. but we need to quit pretending he had nothing to do with that year. That was a once in a lifetime collection of players and coaches and he is the one who put that puzzle together.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:03 am to GeismarGeauxer
Recruiting. All hope in college football is based in recruiting. Without recruiting well you have little to no room for error for hope. We recruit well so it will never be an issue of talent and when you have talent you have hope.
As I see this is yet another thread to bash O, some of you are short sighted. Many said the same things in the last few years of Les' tenure and the beginning of Os and yet we had last year. So history has shown that with our program hope is always something that should be prominent because no matter the trials and tribulations we've gone through the past 17 years we come around and fulfill that hope at some point, no matter the coach. Our program has won 3 titles in that 17 years with 3 different head coaches(unprecedented). That in itself should entail hope.
As I see this is yet another thread to bash O, some of you are short sighted. Many said the same things in the last few years of Les' tenure and the beginning of Os and yet we had last year. So history has shown that with our program hope is always something that should be prominent because no matter the trials and tribulations we've gone through the past 17 years we come around and fulfill that hope at some point, no matter the coach. Our program has won 3 titles in that 17 years with 3 different head coaches(unprecedented). That in itself should entail hope.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:04 am to GeismarGeauxer
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Where is the hope for the future of LSU football?
We dont have a dude in the golden girl squad yet... but with BLMSU, I expect that to change as well
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:05 am to scott8811
Just go be a Bama fan.
All of the complaining by those that don't understand how awesome the last 20 years have been is exhausting.
Do you realize that we NEVER thought that we'd see another natty? Then 03,07,11, and 19! And you're complaining about coach O's handling of this year? After his handling of the team last year?
Put some more sugar on your pacifier and put it back in your mouth. LSU will be fine.
All of the complaining by those that don't understand how awesome the last 20 years have been is exhausting.
Do you realize that we NEVER thought that we'd see another natty? Then 03,07,11, and 19! And you're complaining about coach O's handling of this year? After his handling of the team last year?
Put some more sugar on your pacifier and put it back in your mouth. LSU will be fine.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:11 am to GeismarGeauxer
quote:What is this "perfect storm" BS?
It was a perfect storm of:
Burrow/Brady/Aranda
"All the stars aligned."
We just had a great team .
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:16 am to GeismarGeauxer
Me. Most on this board were sick of Aranda.
Brady was great, but he gets more credit than he deserves.
And Burrow...well, Burrow was the GOAT.
Brady was great, but he gets more credit than he deserves.
And Burrow...well, Burrow was the GOAT.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:19 am to GeismarGeauxer
Recruiting is there. But I don’t trust the coaches to change much especially if Spring football doesn’t happen again.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:19 am to madddoggydawg
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What is this "perfect storm" BS?
"All the stars aligned."
We just had a great team .
Idk, I think Luck plays a part in almost every championship.
If we had 2013’s offense in 2012 or 2014 we maybe win a championship. We had a lot of players peak at the same time.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:21 am to GeismarGeauxer
Holy shite what an original post....this has never been brought up before
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:25 am to GeismarGeauxer
Extremely bright future. Coaching and talent pipeline in place
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:30 am to GeismarGeauxer
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GeismarGeauxer
Will somebody please buy this poster a box of kleenex?
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:30 am to GeismarGeauxer
Wtf is wrong with some of you? Plenty of entitlement around here.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:38 am to TaderSalad
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We dont have a dude in the golden girl squad yet... but with BLMSU, I expect that to change as well
1. Not funny or clever.
2. Stop being a bitch.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:42 am to scott8811
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A QB he went and found that no one else wanted
that's not exactly true, but yes O gets all the credit for getting Burrow. I've always hated the argument a coach only won because of the QB (Mack Brown and VY, Jimbo and Winston, they recruited those guys
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and 2 coaches he hired...one of which took serious vision
He did not hire Aranda, Miles did but yes hiring Brady was a great move that did require vision. The problem is his other hires however, particularly the replacement for both Brady and Aranda are older retreads that are not at all innovative and seem more comfortable hires that likely would stay for a while. IE no vision at all.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 10:43 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:48 am to GeismarGeauxer
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Look at Coach O's entire resume.
His entire resume includes a 15-0 National championship greatest team of all time. Just because you are butthurt he is the coach doesn’t make that not true. So if you look at his entire resume you see he he has the capabilities of putting the pieces in place to go 15-0 and win a national championship.
Will they be as good at 2019? No because we may never see a team that good ever from any program.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:52 am to H-Town Tiger
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that's not exactly true
Who else was pounding down the door t get Joey B after sitting at QB3 for years?
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He did not hire Aranda, Miles did
My mistake on that...had a feeling he might have been a miles hire and guessed wrong
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the replacement for both Brady and Aranda are older retreads that are not at all innovative and seem more comfortable hires that likely would stay for a while. IE no vision at all.
Yea, this is my biggest issue with 2020. The hires were a bunt at best, vs swinging for the fences by getting Brady. At the end of the day this is going to be the drawback of the O model of coaching which is get coordinators and let them do what they do best. Problem is if there is no home run hire to be had or your hire is a dud, you end up with a product like this. Yes, coach O has failed in his own model this year, but that doesn't mean he won't succeed again.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:23 am to NamariTiger
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NamariTiger
You seem like an enjoyable person to be around.
Lighten up, francis.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:31 am to scott8811
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Who else was pounding down the door t get Joey B after sitting at QB3 for years?
I guess i'm kind of arguing semantics but given the timing, end of spring, most teams were settled/didn't have room. But LSU only went after him because we had someone on staff (Bill Busch i think) that knew about him and we were desperate not like some unknown gem they discovered through great scouting necessarily. We know Cincinnati was certainly interested I'm sure others would have been under different timing and FTR he was QB2
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Problem is if there is no home run hire to be had or your hire is a dud, you end up with a product like this. Yes, coach O has failed in his own model this year, but that doesn't mean he won't succeed again.
Well that's a big problem
Of course he can do better in the future but the concerning thing to me is, outside of Brady, his hires have been pretty uninspiring, all retreads that he knows. This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:36 am to madddoggydawg
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What is this "perfect storm" BS? "All the stars aligned." We just had a great team .
And I can make a "perfect storm" on why this season is so bad:
New DC
Wrong players for new scheme
New PGC
Opt outs
COVID killed the spring
Social unrest affecting team
Only 5 returning starters
Starting QB likely gone for season
The likelihood of most of these happening in 2021 is minimal. So if a perfect storm caused 2019, a perfect storm caused 2020 to be a shite show.
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