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re: Best LSU QB ever.........

Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by TheBaker
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:38 pm to
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How many LSU QBs have more than 1 win against a Top 10 team on the road?


uhh, Tommy Hodson??
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:39 pm to
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who is arguing JR had the better career?



But you said at his PEAK. Rohan at his peak was better than JR.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:39 pm to
I never saw 1980's sec football, so I don't know

but I can't imagine an era of sec football as great as the last 10 years
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:40 pm to
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I never saw 1980's sec football, so I don't know



But I did and the D was just as fast as now.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:41 pm to
Then why didn't the SEC dominate college football back then?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:42 pm to
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but I can't imagine an era of sec football as great as the last 10 years

we have only won 4 national titles in a row and 5 of the last 7
Posted by DP40
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:42 pm to
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But you said at his PEAK. Rohan at his peak was better than JR.


HMMMMMMMMM....
Posted by RANDY44
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:42 pm to
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I agree.
Tittle was better in the pros, Woodley started a Super Bowl, and Bert Jones also won an NFL MVP one year, but I don't think anybody else has ever been named 1st Team All-SEC QB four times. Over the course of a 4-year college career, no LSU QB has been better than Hodson.

+1. The key part of the statement is "best LSU QB". In college no one performed better than Hodson. With the surrounding cast of '03- '07 Hodson was a guy who could have gone undefeated. He was that good. Heck, had he not gotten injured in '87 that team could have gone undefeated(did have a tie with OSU). The question of best overal career would be a tie between Tittle and Jones IMO. Most pure QB talent(that was mostly wasted at LSU) would be Jones by a mile. He had the rocket arm of JR, the guts of Hodson and the work ethic of Flynn. He also played for a coach(governed some by the era)who looked upon the forward pass as a last resort in his offense.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:42 pm to
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How many LSU QBs have more than 1 win against a Top 10 team on the road?




uhh, Tommy Hodson??


Nope. Edited: Hodson won at Bama as a freshman in 1986 when they were ranked #6.
This post was edited on 5/3/10 at 12:45 pm
Posted by catfish 62
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:43 pm to
matt mauck
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:44 pm to
Maybe, but looking at smaller spans is a little different. I'd say the SEC was a lot better (relative to other conferences) from 1992-98 than it was from 1999-05.

The SEC was probably the best conference in football from 1986 to 1989, but that happened to be a time ruled by independents (Miami; FSU; ND; WVU; etc.)

And then there's the era from 1957 to 1974, when the SEC just blew everybody else away in terms of top-to-bottom quality.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:44 pm to
Bert Jones
Posted by DP40
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:45 pm to
Who had the better career at LSU?

Hodson, Russell, Risher, Jones. Tittle, or you name another..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:46 pm to
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Rohan at his peak was better than JR.

no he wasn't

Rohan in 2001

59.1% completion rate
9.12 ypa (3347 yards)
1.8 TD/INT
146.7 CFB efficiency rate

JR in 2006

67.8% completion rate
9.15 ypa (3129 yards)
3.5 TD/INT
167.0 CFB efficiency rate
Posted by TheBaker
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:46 pm to
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Hodson won at Bama as a freshman in 1986 when they were ranked #6.


beat #10 Texas A&M in College Station 17-3 in 1987
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:46 pm to
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matt mauck


Nope. Didn't win 1 road game against a Top 10 team.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Who had the better career at LSU?

Hodson
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:54 pm to
I'm kind of surprised Slow has killed the top 10 team argument like he normally does, since those teams finished the season well down in the top 25...a little intellectual dishonesty going on
This post was edited on 5/3/10 at 12:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm kind of surprised Slow has killed the top 10 team argument like he normally does, since those teams finished the season well down in the top 25

i have no dog in that pissing match
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:01 pm to
I'd probably say it was Bert Jones or Y.A. Tittle, but I never saw either of them play.

Hodson was great, but Rohan in 2001 was a machine and set all the throwing records besides career records. Of the one's I've seen, I'd have to say:

Rohan Davey (2001 season was phenominal)
Tommy Hodson (Career records and was a great QB)
J. Russell (Great talent, and was hard to stop at times)
M. Mauck (Great leader and could pass and run)
Herb Tyler (Good QB and had a really good career)
Matt Flynn (Hate to make the comparison, but see Mauck above. Had a noodle for an arm though)
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