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re: Berzon goes to OU for senior year and

Posted on 5/27/26 at 11:47 am to
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 11:47 am to
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You seem exactly like the type of person I was explaining when I said any information like this doesn't belong in the hands of tigerdroppings posters.



It's the opposite. But, that doesn't matter.

I'm someone who thinks that exposing the situation would show that Beth did her job and that Mark is using this issue to harm her reputation.

Given that he's already played the card, I suggest we get to the bottom of it. The damage is done. It will be used to attack Beth when someone wants to attack her for fielding a team that isn't up to their standards.

And, frankly, if Mark is correct about his accusations, then what's right is right. Let the chips fall.

You seem like the type of person who is worried that something happened that shouldn't have and would prefer the information not become public.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:04 pm to
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he never said sexual assault.



Why lie Chad? What does this accomplish? He referred to it as sexual assault and also as being sexual abuse and the perpetrator being a sexual predator. I'm not mischaracterizing the seriousness of his accusations.

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But at the end of the day, those who say I am trying to tear a program down are just ignorant. What kind of program would you have if there was a sexual assault investigation. In MY opinion Beth should resign and walk away, not because she is a bad coach...but because she did something that is morally wrong!


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So its not abuse if one of your coaches is having a relationship with a current player?

Got it!


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I have dedicated a good part of my life to helping girls and coaching girls. I take a huge amount of pride in PROTECTING girls....ALL girls. So when something like this happens I find it disgusting....not only by the person with the power over a player doing it....but also disgusting that a superior just either ignored it, condoned it, or swept it under the rug. Ask yourself if you would send your daughter to a coaching staff that doesnt protect their players from sexual predators?


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You can call me a loud mouth, you can call me anything you want....but you can never call me a sexual preditor. You can also be assured if I ever was associated with someone that did this, I would have them removed, fired, or just plain Ole had their arse kicked.


He also explicitly said it would end Beth's tenure...

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But I can assure you, if the right attorney gets a hold of what went on with the issue.....you wouldn't have to worry whos the best coach....you will be looking for a new one


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and nothing about him spilling beans will be the validation or invalidation of anything other than message board hearsay at this time.


He's throwing around accusations. So, let us ask a few reasonable questions.

* Did he ask for a job?
* When did this occur?
* Was he turned down?
* When was he turned down? Who was hired instead?
* Did he send kids to LSU before he asked for the job? How many?
* Did he send kids to LSU after he asked for the job? How many?

These are fair questions.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:08 pm to
Agreed, I was generalizing saying if a sexual assault or a coach hooking up occurred anywhere they should be gone.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63166 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Maybe it was looked into and the people involved denied anything happened and the LSU Administration couldn't "prove" anything.

If you fire someone or accuse them of something, you better have some sort of proof besides "I was told this" or you are getting yourself into legal complications.

Since the alleged is still coaching, it looks like nothing could be "proved".

I just find it hard to believe that LSU would do anything to protect Beth. It is not like she is winning Championships over here.

Again, if I knew about this "rumor" or "real", I'm pretty sure the Lsu Administration know about this and investigated. And, seeing that LSU is bringing in a "Top class" next year, it doesn't seem to have affected recruiting, so ....



The most likely explanation is that Beth handled the situation correctly. That she's still here is a pretty good indicator. Could have been a rumor that wasn't actually true. Could have had other complexities related to legal issues and/or HR issues. Either way, Beth wouldn't have been the one calling those shots. Instead, she would have been ordered to not address these issues publicly at the behest of the school.

So, that would beg the question about why Mark is going after her on this subject. Is he ignorant of how difficult a situation like that would be for someone in Beth's position? Is he just unaware of how little authority she would have one way or another when the LSU admin is involved?

Or, does he just not care and is instead trying to bury Beth for some ulterior motive?

It's hard to tell.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Why lie Chad?


He said originally dating and sleeping with players.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63166 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:20 pm to
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He said originally dating and sleeping with players.



and then he said the things I quoted. Clearly, I wasn't overstating his accusation. Those are his words.

Again, why lie about it? Why try and minimize his accusation? What does that accomplish?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Again, why lie about it? Why try and minimize his accusation? What does that accomplish?


You’re so drama. I’m not lieing about shite. His direct accusation is dating and sleeping w players.

That’s not directly meaning sexual assault imo.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63166 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:26 pm to
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You’re so drama. I’m not lieing about shite. His direct accusation is dating and sleeping w players.

That’s not directly meaning sexual assault imo.



We aren't arguing what your opinion is Chad. We are referencing his opinion. And, you wrongly (or dishonestly) said he didn't accuse of "sexual assault".

Why?

I think we should dig a little deeper into what is motivating this guys accusations.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:30 pm to
I told you what he directly said happened. You can cry about whatever it is you want from there.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63166 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:35 pm to
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I told you what he directly said happened. You can cry about whatever it is you want from there.



I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that you disagree with him referring to a coach dating and sleeping with players as "sexual assault", "sexual abuse", with the coach being a "sexual predator"?

And, because you disagree, his accusation aren't as serious as I pretend?

Is that your point?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18093 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:52 pm to
Jees some of you guys need to give it the frick up
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