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re: Before NIL LSU would be in playoffs regularly ,if they cap NIL LSU will be

Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:52 am to
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
30911 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:52 am to
Anyone know where we actually are in the conference on NIL?

From stuff I’ve read it seems UGA, Texas, A&M and OU have the richest.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:53 am to
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I prefer Div. 2 football now where a free education and playing a sport you love mean something , that name on the front the jersey means something .


I'm guessing you've watched less than a total of 1 hour of division 2 football all year. But if you really are such a big div 2 fan, then what the hell are you doing here?
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 6:53 am
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:55 am to
Whatever get a job
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:55 am to
quote:

Anyone know where we actually are in the conference on NIL?

From stuff I’ve read it seems UGA, Texas, A&M and OU have the richest


That's not public information, so any answers you get will just be a guess.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13860 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:56 am to
bullshite. How about maintain strong off and def lines and recruit LA skill positions. That’s all you need.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:57 am to
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Whatever get a job




You just keep proving my point for me. I asked you for solutions, and you have none. You have no response to anything I say other than to sling untrue insults.

Try to be better. Read up on NIL so maybe you can understand it better (assuming you can read past a 6th grade level).
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37771 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:57 am to
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Before NIL LSU would be in playoffs regularly


Define regularly. Define what period. Because that really is not true.

quote:

iger Stadium one of the top venues to play in


Still is

quote:

rabid fan base


Still pretty darn good but it has waned a bit.

quote:

unmatched nighttime games


Still is for big games

quote:

top 3 in NFL alumni


Isn't that still true. It was in July,

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/rankings/college-football-rankings-teams-most-nfl-players-2024

quote:

1. Alabama
Active players: 77
Earnings: $509,286,769

2. Ohio State
Active players: 66
Earnings: $301,683,689

3. LSU
Active players: 65
Earnings: $354,200,751


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Unfortunately cause NIL none of that means shite right now .



What does that statement even mean? Weird melt to start the workweek.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:00 am to
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What does that statement even mean? Weird melt to start the workweek


I have a 3 year old. Sometimes he gets into a pissy mood where he just wines for unknown reasons. You try to ask questions to figure out why, but there isn't much you can do to logically explain and reason with them in that moment.

That's the kind of situation you are dealing with here. Main difference is, my 3 year old typically comes around to understanding. The OP never will.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:01 am to
Other than Aaron Anderson what really good Louisiana skill position did we have
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4291 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:08 am to
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Just once, I would like one of you to explain exactly how a cap on NIL would work


If conferences created their own bylaws…
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27593 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:19 am to
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Just once, I would like one of you to explain exactly how a cap on NIL would work that wouldn't result in a law suit that the athlete wins with 100% certainty.


The P2, 3 or 4 leave the NCAA and also formally separate from the universities. The schools are repaid by leasing rights for the names, logos, colors, etc. and rental on the facilities and stadiums.

This eliminates Title IX from the picture. Then you have a players union and this new college football entity hammer out a CBA. Then you have contracts with minimum years attached before players can move and some form of a salary cap. This ends all collectives, the same way that pro teams and their fans are not able to give players money or goods outside of a contract as an inducement to choose to play for them.

The original intent of NIL just becomes sponsorship deals with what are now professional athletes. I’m sure boosters will still use this to give money to players, but the whole point of moving to this system would be to eliminate the free movement of the portal and prevent teams from using sponsorships to tip the balance.

There are enough teams in the P2 who need balance restored to be consistently competitive to make sure the rules are enforced. This won’t be the NCAA trying to govern hundreds of member institutions across multiple sports. This will be the conferences and a new “college football” league with a commissioner enforcing the rules on 30-50 teams in one sport. That’s a lot easier to keep an eye on.

Because of how broad the Supreme Court’s ruling was, this is the only way to prevent a lawsuit from overturning a cap on money to players. You still can’t cap NIL/sponsorships, but you can change the primary stream of money and limit that.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37771 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:21 am to
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Well the fans who do donate will WISE UP sooner or later and college sports will be DEAD.



Isn't that exactly what you are advocating for?
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20914 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:29 am to
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Tiger Stadium one of the top venues to play in,


Until half time unless it's a huge opponent. It's a shell of what it used to be.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 7:30 am
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
2974 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:29 am to
That ship has sailed, there was a time before the SCOTUS ruling that the NCAA could have accepted something like this but the stupid stubborn retards had this 'we're the adults, we're in charge, our way or the highway' mentality and ended up getting run over by the Courts



Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22679 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:35 am to
It's unlikely we ever see an NIL cap... what's more likely to happen is it runs its course and the ultra-wealthy get tired of paying players who refuse to stay.


The fix to NIL is a fix to the transfer portal. It needs to be more difficult for guys to transfer.

Take for example TJ Finley: Looking for his 5th team... How he has eligibility is mindblowing... The whole Covid year was honestly stupid.

Even Walker Howard is a good example... Looking for his 3rd year and will still have 2 years to be able to play.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 7:36 am
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:38 am to
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If conferences created their own bylaws…


Conferences can create their own bylaws, break from the NCAA, form an entirely new league, there still isn't a world where putting a cap on NIL will be able to exist.

It doesn't exist in any other sport, where they do have salary caps. What makes you think it could exist here? Conferences can make whatever rule they want putting a NIL cap in place. It would be immediately be ruled unconstitutional by the courts.
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:38 am to
Instead of paying players, should be like baseball , go straight to Pro's from high school .
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:42 am to
That's all great. And college football will most certainly land on some of the areas you touched on. My reply was specifically talking about NIL though. Even in your scenario there will be no cap on it, like the OP suggested.

I agree, the collectives aren't what NIL was supposed to be. But the collectives formed businesses, with their sole purpose being to fund NIL. It's a loophole, and it's one that there is likely no work around for.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54317 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:42 am to
Nope. LSU had the roster this year that is more than capable of a 10-2 result with the schedule we had this year.

Coaching matters. Ours is below average in performance but top tier in pay. We aren't getting the results we are paying for. Period.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:43 am to
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Instead of paying players, should be like baseball , go straight to Pro's from high school


You are just nailing all the idiot talking points in one thread. There is nothing stopping the NFL from taking players out of high school if that's what they wanted to do. The NFL has that rule in place, it has nothing to do with the NCAA.
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